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"g" paradox...

Started by iacob alex, June 08, 2009, 12:02:02 AM

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iacob alex

    Hi Dr !
If you take a look on net,regarding /"g" paradox/Falling chimney/Falling stick/...so diverse denominations ,about the same simple "unknown"  fact...you can discover that,we need to carry simple tests,nothing more.

Some steps you can find at "Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev" topic (see May 18-19 ,comments).

Again,Mikhail has no solution,but interesting simple short experiments about pendular fall (pendulum,counterweighted pendulum:fixed arm and variable arm ).

In my opinion,the real answer for the old PM problem,is "around" these easy,simple experiments...
...not a "small " wheel,but a "fit size " of a first degree lever(fixed arm+variable arm).

       All the best! / Alex

Dr

Good Morning Alex: Your last two sentences, I agree completely, the solution to a gravity wheel will not be found on a small size wheel.  A weight falling near the rim of the wheel will take longer to fall than a weight in free fall straight down!  I believe this is why Besslers first wheel was 6.5 ft, in diameter, and every wheel thereafter was even larger. Also you notice he slowed them d

o  wn? First wheel 60+ second wheel 50 third and fourth 26 under no load. Why? Perhaps to give the weight more time to shift!

iacob alex

       Hi Dr !

  We can understand so easy the importance of the size ...if we experience a vertical jump down (1meter...2m...3m.....5m....).

  We can notice a similar case,with an unbalanced big size lever,free to topple down :here we have an initial torque differece,increasing alike an "avalanche process".

  Simply,it's an elementary "butterfly effect":a small difference (initial condition) of a dynamic system,may produce a large variation (final condition),in a long time behaviour.

  To replay this "game",we need to feedback this small difference.

  No free fall,no  "free" power...

     All the best! / Alex

Dr

Hi Alex: When you say  " no free fall, no free energy" what exactly do you mean?  How do you propose to capture the energy of a free falling weight and recycle it? I know from my own experiments of smashing lead balls there is great power in a free falling object, but how to use it without destroying your wheel, is the 24,000$ question?

iacob alex


    Hi Dr !

  Regarding "how to capture the energy of a free falling weight",we can use a pair of weights,attached to a first class lever: this arrangement works as an unbalanced torque,free to develop alike a mass in a free gravity fall.

This motion can be stored as rotational inertia.

Some explicit comments,you can find at this forum,in some topics:
   -Heavy hub pendulum
   -Torque avalanche
   -H/h "puzzle"...
   -Long charge=short discharge
   -Same input-greater output
   -...and others...

Regarding "to recycle" (to close the "loop")...there are some solutions.

Maybe,in the future,I will rent a site on net,and open again my "gallery" of drawings,so to be more explicit.

In this point of time,I am interested to make more easily  manifest the concept,or general idea of PM,this "dream machine" :simplicity is the best expression.
    All the best ! / Alex