ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU

[otto]

Hello all,

@Mark

sorry to ask a dump question but who said that in a TPU is a ferrite core?

Of course, you can use metals as you want but then you have to know what to do with them. I mean, you cant pulse a ferrite TPU with the known frequencies of 245kHz, 35kHz....
Various metals needs various frequency mixes. A ferrite core has to be pulsed with a veeeeery high frequency mix. If not, you have a toaster and not a TPU!
If you think Im misleading you, just look how Tesla did it. He had to use a sparc gap. It has a special reason for that but I dont want to discuss it here.
A TPU doesnt work on 12V?

Dont mix the input voltage and the output voltage of a TPU.
The input voltage is from 9V - 12V
Its better to use 9V because then you can "hide" a 9V battery inside your TPU. If course its not a final solution but for me good enough. Its only a "starter battery" that will give a few kicks and then, when the TPU is started you can switch off the battery. As said, its not a final solution.

Otto

[Mk1]

@otto

Well i guess you have looked at it to long , I am not confused at all !

I tell you there is one , why ?

Because you can see it !

I am not convinced there really is a battery in the tpu . So 9 or 12v is still pretty high.

Mark

[otto]

Mark,

yes, I see what you mean. This what you showed us are the high voltage input transformers.

Dont mix this with a TPU core. This is NOT a TPU core.

Otto

[tishatang]

Philosophical musings

@Otto
"No army can withstand the strength of an idea whose time has come."
           by Victor Hugo

It's time for a TPU

@All
Remember the story of the blind men trying to describe an elephant?  Each had a different part.  One had the tail and said it's long and thin and hairy.  Another had the trunk and said it's like a snake.  Another had the ear and said it is like a large pancake.  While another grabbed a leg and said it is something like a tree.  Finally, one got enough vision to proclaim, "Damn, it's an elephant.

Our elephant is the TPU.  Until one of us gets the vision, we are blind to the basic principles.  Once understood, all kinds of TPU's can be built.  Once electro magnetic principles were understood, all kinds of motors evolved.  You can see the evolution of the TPU of SM.  The first one weighed about a pound and a half and put out about 100 watts.  Later, a similar sized one, weighed 12 ounces and put out 300 watts.  Maybe the first used iron or ferrite, and the later ones were all windings with no cores?  If you know the principles, you can make it work either way.  Think the first ones as a Ford Model T, then a Model A, and we will make a sports car one day.

Tishatang

[otto]

Hello all,

@tishatang

the main problem is that everyone has a vision.

Here are my questions to give you maybe "visions":

1. do we really need a high voltage to pulse a TPU?
2. do we really need a core in a TPU?
3. If yes, whats the purpose of a core?
4. If not a core, why not?
5. Is there a negative resistance needed or not?
6. is there a need to "hide" the load from a TPU?

I could wright 100 questions.

I think youre joking with me - us:

A pound and a half heavy TPU puts out about 100W??

Come on. For a 100W output I dont need a core! Remember the ECD?

The bigger the weight and diameter, the bigger the output. I made some calculations and thats it. The only question is: where is the limit? Of course it doesnt depend only on this 2 factors. There is a lot more. Yes, this is very important.

Trust me there is no iron and no ferrite.

Otto