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New TPU build

Started by Farrah Day, June 14, 2009, 07:13:39 AM

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MACEDONIA CD

ok
i see here  and ask all you  WHAT I MEAN FOR THAT <TUBE > WWHAY TUBE  FOR WHAT  IS NEED TPU
  THAT IS THE ON EOFF THE  PARTS  OF TPU @ MK1  HMM  MADE IN CHESSLOVAKIA  I THING IS  BEST < MADE IN YUGOSLAVIA  ;)

TOMOROW I WHILL MAKE SOME TO SEE  AND I WHILL GIVE YOU HOPE TO CONTINUE  WHIT  EXPERIMENTS  <<
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@INNOVATION  LOONG TIME NO SEE  IM ALL TIME HERE 
@MARCO YOU HAVE  NOTHING NOW  BEACOUSE  .....
I HAVVE THING  YOU ARE  OK BUT  YOU WHILL LOST IN THE END   

Farrah Day

Just to go back to something Marco said:

QuoteIf you read the complete compilation i have made you will see that he first discoverd the effect with vacuum tubes, and then switched over to solid state controlling circuits.

Furthermore you can read the info about how he first discoverd the effect when he was designing what would become his 3D spatial sound system.

Well according to the Jack Durban interview the 3D spatial sound system was a complete red herring, so we can possibly disregard that entirely.

As far as tubes (or valves as we would call them) go, and as far as I can tell SM says he first noted the 'kick' from these, but they were never used in his TPUs... if that's what you were getting at? 

Jack Durban says he never saw any evidence of PCB's or any parts or tools you would associate with PCB construction, leading him to think it was all about coils and coil orientation. However, SM definitely mentions ICs in an email to Mannix, so I would assume that likely a very simple 555 timer cct is located somewhere.

Jack Durban also said something else in the interview that I found a little odd. That is that the shape of the TPU was irrelevant and that the toroid shape was simply easier to wind.  Well, I find this a little odd, because the only coils that would be easier to wind on a toroid would be what people are calling the collector coils - the so-called control coils would be a real pain-in-the-arse to wind on a toroid.  And how would he do this?

From what I can make out from the JD interview it would seem that SM fixed some form of support posts (speaker supports are mentioned) to a particle board base around which were wound the coils - if this was the case it would only be possible to wind the so-called coils!!

Are we really sure that there are 'control coils' wound at 90 degrees to these collector coils?

Also, while I'm thinking about Hartmann pipes up on the phone and mentions iron baling wire as a possible material for the collector coils, but if this was the case, I would have thought that the TPU's shown in a video being disected with a jigsaw, would be far harder to cut through than indicated.

The one thing I was hoping to get clarified was the coil orientations... are there any coils at 90 degrees to each other? But this was never brought up, so either no one thought to ask or this is taken as a given. 

I might have overlooked this as I'm pouring through so much stuff at present, but, is there anywhere that SM clearly states that there are multiple coils at 90 degres to each other?
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

MACEDONIA CD


turbo

Quote from: Farrah Day on June 26, 2009, 05:18:53 AM
Just to go back to something Marco said:

Well according to the Jack Durban interview the 3D spatial sound system was a complete red herring, so we can possibly disregard that entirely.


Jack Durban doesn't know shit, he should stick at designing shopping cart wheels.
It would have been better if he had looked a bit closer.
But you can believe all he is saying (which is nothing really), i don't care.

M.

turbo

Quote from: MACEDONIA  CD on June 26, 2009, 05:16:09 AM
 
@MARCO YOU HAVE  NOTHING NOW  BEACOUSE  .....
I HAVVE THING  YOU ARE  OK BUT  YOU WHILL LOST IN THE END

And you, go buy some more milk and bread.
And stay away from the TPU.