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Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

Started by TinselKoala, June 16, 2009, 09:52:52 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

Hi allcanadian.  Just to let you know how much I appreciate your input here.  I get it that you feel the intrinsic components on the circuit are somewhat unstable or possibly better described as variable?  You are right.  But the intrigue is that the 'window' to show any kind of anomaly at all, is aslo so very small.  So.  Superficially we have a really standard set up which is also well known and well tried.  And yet, given certain frequencies? resonances?  then really sophisticated measurements point at waveforms and values that seem to fly in the face of... 

I have been in some really lengthy conversations in trying to resolve the coincidence of the source voltage across the shunt and the drain voltage across the load.  We can nearly resolve this provided only that the current flow instantaneously adjusts to applied voltage and if the load resistor presents an alternate path for that current flow.  At present our thinking is that it may be through the hollow of the resistor itself.  That way there is an explanation for the spike as being entirely stored energy from the level of the source battery potential difference and greater.  Then too, the current flow back through the battery would always be enabled through a circuit path enabled by the body diode.

At its least, this would explain the need for the wider diameter of the load resistor which seems to be required to allow this anomaly at all.  The thinking then being that the narrower the diameter the greater the magnetic resistance? (sorry about the term) would not allow the full benefit of returning current.  But the question remains. What then happens to the stored energy on the load resistor?  Does this dissipate?  And if so, as what?

The alternative to this could be that the returning energy - be it stored or regenerated - actually behaves in some way that conflicts with standard electric current flow - resulting in some delivery of energy that also does not relate to heat dissipation.  I can still argue this in terms of zipons - but it would need more comprehensive experimental proof.  There may be hints of this in Aaron's early experiments where he discovered a distinct cooling over the resistor.  But it can only be considered as a possibility at this stage.  It needs more substantial proof.

What continues to intrigue me is that our early choice of the appropriate load resistors was - through some miracle of coincidence and good timing - able to satisfy the precise requirement to show this anomaly.  Which also explains why the early replicators of that circuit were not able to show those same anomalous values.  I must confess that until my foray into these forums - I assumed that replicators were simply pretending not to see the benefits.  I now know that the effect may very well have required that precise property.  The actual question remains as to what is the upper limit required to show full benefit.  I believe Fuzzy is making an even wider resistor and I look forward to seeing these results.

But it is just so nice to be reminded that we can engage with the more open minded.  There are a dearth of such on this thread - albeit many on this forum.  For some reason this thread is monopolised by a kind of mainstream scepticism which is appropriate to good science provided it is also open to the questions posed by these evident anomalies.   

Yet again - thank you for the objectivity and the input in general.  It is much appreciated.    :D

poynt99

Quote from: allcanadian on October 23, 2009, 08:17:53 PM
In any case I fail to see the point of all this testing and speculation without a solid premise to work from, the circuit must embody the premise in every detail.

Regards
AC

Care to expand on that?

Also, what would you suggest as a way to determine when the correct mode of operation has been reached? I sense that the message here from you and Rose is that I have not "hit" on the correct mode yet, or I'm using the wrong resistor, and that is why my results are COP<1. Is this correct?

How is your replication going btw? Since I've done nothing right, perhaps you could post your setup and results and show me the error of my ways?

.99
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Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: poynt99 on October 24, 2009, 12:40:40 AM
Care to expand on that?

Also, what would you suggest as a way to determine when the correct mode of operation has been reached? I sense that the message here from you and Rose is that I have not "hit" on the correct mode yet, or I'm using the wrong resistor, and that is why my results are COP<1. Is this correct?

How is your replication going btw? Since I've done nothing right, perhaps you could post your setup and results and show me the error of my ways?

.99

Poynty - what gives?  Do I detect a certain irritation ?  anger ?   Golly.   ::)

I have hardly commented on your set up and allcanadian has gone to some pains to request the 'object' of all tests, not just yours.  I simply tried to expand on my objects - is all?  You are unduly sensitive.  But may I remind you about an earlier question.  Are we in competition on a thesis?    ;)   

Still a great admirer of your work Poynty Poynt.   ;D :-*  Just not sure of it's relevance and would prefer to see it in context

poynt99

Hi Rose.

I'm not in any sort of thesis competition with you. Doubt I would win if I was 8)

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

poynt99

I should have some results for you in about 12 to 14 hours. Must sleep now ;)

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209