Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[WilbyInebriated]

If I was doing this and calling the shots I would remove the "Bizarro logic" power limiting trimpot and I then would expect to see the 555 frequency and duty cycle change.  Therefore the main "on pot" and "off pot" settings would need to be adjusted to bring the frequency and duty cycle back to your desired settings.  You can expect that measuring the power on this modified setup would be normal, you would not see any negative power consumption at all.

Then I would plug this back into the MOSFET + coil-resistor setup and see what happens.  Chances are the oscillations would be killed by these improvements to the 555 circuit so it is kind of a moot point since what you are looking for is the oscillation.

If I can make a suggestion to Aaron, why not just measure the vanilla circuit in its normal running mode without oscillation?  How about some nice clean exponential curves and no horrendous noise and oscillation.  Both you and Rosemary have repeatedly claimed that the normal operating mode for this circuit will be over unity and produce excess heat in the coil-resistor.  In fact, if I recall correctly, the COP 17 claim in Rosemery's paper is based on the normal running of the circuit.

Why not keep life simple and just look at the circuit in its normal operating mode and leave the esoteric and complicated spurious oscillation mode testing for step 2?  Just Keep It Simple, Aaron.

MileHigh

but your not doing it, nor calling the shots... and why not? why aren't you building and showing all?

then you would... in your imagination? chances are? chances are you're assuming things again... how scientific of you. did tk teach you that?

no, you can't make suggestions. you COULD HAVE, but you got yourself banned from energetic for your continual running at the mouth.

why not build it for yourself instead of proselytizing these endless soliloquies.

don't forget you still haven't explained how your racist anti-semitic comment "has become generic and is used in everyday conversation, political or otherwise..."
you didn't think i was going to forget about that did you?

[MileHigh]

Wilby, you are all about the mental masturbation that you get from being a pain in the ass and making noise whereever you go on these chat boards.  Get yourself some mental Kleenex and have fun somewhere else.  Imagine the shame and embarrassment you would feel if we were all suddenly in the same room together in real life.  I think that Farrah Day would take pleasure in scratching your back with her long sharp nails.

your racist anti-semitic comment

You have got to be kidding, talk about twisting meanings and being a pathetic spin doctor in search of his next jerk-off.

This is the only response that you will get from me Wilby, go play somewhere else.

[WilbyInebriated]

Wilby, you are all about the mental masturbation that you get from being a pain in the ass and making noise whereever you go on these chat boards.  Get yourself some mental Kleenex and have fun somewhere else.  Imagine the shame and embarrassment you would feel if we were all suddenly in the same room together in real life.  I think that Farrah Day would take pleasure in scratching your back with her long sharp nails.

You have got to be kidding, talk about twisting meanings and being a pathetic spin doctor in search of his next jerk-off.

This is the only response that you will get from me Wilby, go play somewhere else.

i like how you avoided answering any of the questions...

no, no uncle.
you said, and i quote:
"get your jackboots and brown shirt and report to "Doc" Peter Lindemann.  Just hope and pray a "Night of the Long Knives" never happens!"
then you claimed this about your racist comment:
"has become generic and is used in everyday conversation, political or otherwise..."

when in fact it got deleted by the admin  who should have removed your posting privileges immediately instead of sweeping it under the rug. shame and embarrassment should be felt by you for saying such heinous things.
since you claim i am twisting your meaning, here is your chance to clarify your meaning. please explain how your comment wasn't anti-semitic or racist. i'm going to throw it in your face until you do.
i got my chair, this should be as good as some of tk's classics...

as far as us being in a room together, you would be dangling from that noose of your own words, begging for uncle, while i was beating your racist ass like a piñata. farrah would be in the corner struggling with a 15 component circuit while calling everyone else in the room a retard...

[utilitarian]

i like how you avoided answering any of the questions...

no, no uncle.
you said, and i quote:
"get your jackboots and brown shirt and report to "Doc" Peter Lindemann.  Just hope and pray a "Night of the Long Knives" never happens!"

This comment is not actually antisemitic.  If it is, it is only insofar as it refers to Nazis, who of course did not like Jews.  But the Night of the Long Knives had nothing to do with Jews - it was a party purge.

[Hoppy]

Hi Hoppy,

I can't explain why the 555 circuit sometimes shows negative power.  The strange thing is that you can see how there is a corelation between the sinusoidal voltage waveform across the coil-resistor and the sinusoidal waveform of the power measurement of the 555.  It almost looks like something is modulating the power consumption of the 555 up and down so that sometimes the power is negative.  This is all taking place at around 400 KHz, which is a moderately high frequency.  The fact is that the 555 circuit simply cannot be outputting power itself, so there is some sort of a fake-out going on.

Like I said in my earlier postings, the "555 power limiting trimpot" should simply not be there and that complicates things.  Also note that the 555 circuit is active, not passive.

It simply does not make any sense that this is happening.  It would have to be carefully looked at with a scope and playing with the routing of the wires in the setup and so on.

The first thing that I would do would be to build a stand-alone version of the 555 circuit, taking the MOSFET and the coil-resistor out of the the equation to see what happens.  For starters I would even keep the "555 power limiting trimpot" in place even though it makes me nauseous.

You can assume that you would see a normal power flow from the battery into the 555 circuit in this case with no kind of modulation on the power waveform going into negative territory.  There would be no modulation at all.  Then when you plugged this 555 reference circuit back into the full blown setup with the MOSFET and coil-resistor, you would expect to see the power modulation stuff that goes into negative territory again.  Looking at the differences in the 555 circuit with and without the MOSFET + coil-resistor would be the key to figuring it all out.

If I was doing this and calling the shots I would remove the "Bizarro logic" power limiting trimpot and I then would expect to see the 555 frequency and duty cycle change.  Therefore the main "on pot" and "off pot" settings would need to be adjusted to bring the frequency and duty cycle back to your desired settings.  You can expect that measuring the power on this modified setup would be normal, you would not see any negative power consumption at all.

Then I would plug this back into the MOSFET + coil-resistor setup and see what happens.  Chances are the oscillations would be killed by these improvements to the 555 circuit so it is kind of a moot point since what you are looking for is the oscillation.

If I can make a suggestion to Aaron, why not just measure the vanilla circuit in its normal running mode without oscillation?  How about some nice clean exponential curves and no horrendous noise and oscillation.  Both you and Rosemary have repeatedly claimed that the normal operating mode for this circuit will be over unity and produce excess heat in the coil-resistor.  In fact, if I recall correctly, the COP 17 claim in Rosemery's paper is based on the normal running of the circuit.

Why not keep life simple and just look at the circuit in its normal operating mode and leave the esoteric and complicated spurious oscillation mode testing for step 2?  Just Keep It Simple, Aaron.

MileHigh

MileHigh:

The 555 circuit can only be sinking current, so this makes the data recorded for both shunts highly suspect in terms of being truly negative and suggesting that appreciable power is being returned to the battery. Both shunts need to be connected hard on the battery neg terminal, so that any volt drop in the wiring is eliminated. This also applies to all scope ground leads. Looking at his latest video using the 0.25R shunt, he has the shunt connected to the battery neg using a croc clip lead! This is a definite no-no, as from my experience, the leads to the croc clips are usually badly crimped and should always be soldered before use. Even then, they are not suitable for this purpose. It's quite possible that Aaron has used these clips for his Bedini experiments, in which case, if they have been used in high voltage and inductive circuits, then the lead to clip connections may well be oxidised and have appreciable resistance. His inter wiring is long and messy; IMO, he needs to repeat the whole experiment with the shortest wiring interconnections possible, using a heavier guage wire for the mosfet, inductive resistor and shunt circuit.

Your comment about the 555 circuit not being passive but active is of course correct. I should have said what I meant - non inductive.

Hoppy