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Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

Started by TinselKoala, June 16, 2009, 09:52:52 PM

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PaulLowrance

Thanks for the nice scope shots. Is there an explanation what we're looking at? In the green trace, it shows a 100ns pulse that goes to nearly 800V, correct?

Paul

poynt99

That's the  Drain voltage, point P2 in my test plan (green trace). The Red trace is point P3, the Source/shunt voltage. Yep, about 750V peak.  ;D Very odd that my power supply or filter caps haven't blown up yet, LOL.  ::)

Varying the grounding by length and position etc., alters the shunt wave form a great deal, and hence can have a huge effect on the power calculation, even though that spike only lasts for 150ns. Overall for the frequency (T=400us) I am using, that represents an average power over one cycle of about -1W.

In Glen's case at 500kHz, it is a completely different story. We go down from about 400us period to about a 2us period, yet the power spike is approximately the same width. In glen's case it represents about -100W over one cycle, and accounts for the highly skewed results once crunched in Excel.

.99
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PaulLowrance

Would it be over COP 1 if you ignored the pulses/spikes that are less than 200 ns?

Regards,
Paul

poynt99

I quite doubt it would indicate COP>1 by ignoring the spikes. I'm not sure how one would go about doing that anyway?

If we replace all the spikes with the value it would be as a pure resistance, then most likely we would be left only with Ohmic calculations, and they should come out as per theory.

The premise of Rose's theory is that the spike itself generates (or re-generates) excess power in the return portion of the cycle. Killing the spikes from the data dump would preclude this theory entirely.

.99
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fuzzytomcat

Quote from: poynt99 on October 19, 2009, 12:35:48 PM
Another improvement.

I only had one 6" croc lead there Hoppy, but have now eliminated that as well. I noticed a marked improvement by doubling up on the croc lead back to the shunt, so I've soldered a 3" piece of 12 AWG to the shunt -'ve and brought it out for connection to all 3 scope probe gnd leads.

As a side note, I believe Glen is using long croc leads all over the place, not to mention the long leads to his pots...nice for noise coupling indeed.  :-\

See the attached photo. Also see the Drain and Shunt wave forms, both for mine (now with better grounding) and Glen's. It should be noted that my test frequency is 2.5kHz (close to original Ainslie test), while Glen is still working in the 500kHz range, at least in that photo.

.99

The Image and test data that is being referenced from the TDS 3054C was from Test #6 using a standard off the shelf 10 ohm wire wound load resistor ...... some of the worse test results I ever recorded ......

http://www.energeticforum.com/71062-post2961.html

QuoteI did a short test on the Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Heater Circuit with a standard store bought 10 ohm 100 watt ( "MEMCOR" # FR100 ) load resistor, and after a short time the results were not as expected. The best arrangement for added gains in this circuit is to have the Mosfet source or Channel 1 to be the lowest mV as possible 30 to 70 is ideal but anything over 100 mV gains in circuit efficiency lowers.

The "load resistor" temperature was higher but so was the consumption of battery energy loosing .3 Volts every hour on my Fluke 87 DMM connection.

The "Tests" that had the high gains was Test #3 ...... Image Date 5 Oct 2009 23:01:09
http://www.energeticforum.com/70105-post2899.html

The "Test" that had the highest gains was Test #5 ...... Image Date 12 Oct 2009 02:05:22
http://www.energeticforum.com/70771-post2951.html

As shown in the PDF documentation http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7620.0;attach=38290  "EARTH" grounding of the negative portion of the Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Heater Circuit and using a bench top dual power supply with capacitors instead of battery's you will see nothing but ground loops and no gains from the circuit .....