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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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gyulasun

Hi Ali,

Thanks for your answer. By now I have remembered where else I have already seen this circuit principle where a DC voltage source is connected across a coil wound onto a ferrite toroidal core by a very fast switch. Here is a link in English and next in French where Zoltan Szili explains how he got over a COP of 5 performance in a Spice simulation.

http://www.rexresearch.com/szili/szili.htm

http://quanthommesuite.pagesperso-orange.fr/circuitzolt.htm

As he explained he used the Jiles-Atherton Core Model for handling coils with nonlinear ferromagnetic cores, here is a link to such a model as used in HSpice:
http://www.ece.uci.edu/docs/hspice/hspice_2001_2-91.html 
(This model can handle core saturation. I think Mr Szili used it in the MicroCap circuit simulator.)

He also found it important in the simulation like you how fast the rise time of the input control pulse was (10nsec or less) and also the material of the core was 3E5 type from Ferroxcube, as well as the MOSFET type. (His coil had 40 turns on the specified core but he did not use any parallel capacitor like your 1 uF or now your 18uF.)

I wonder if your simulator (NI Multisim) considers lossy components like in real life a capacitor has an equivalent series resistance (ESR) or a coil has copper resistance and core losses too. IT would also be important to know if the inductance model in Multisim considers core saturation or hysteresis losses.   The model for the C2 is also important when you assign an initial charge (IC) to it, whether the capacitor model uses a voltage source for representing your 24V charge with a zero inner resistance or it is user defined. (I do not know, how it is in Multisim.)

I hope this Szili circuit addition helps you and Dole and others involved in this interesting setup. Keep up the good experiments.

Greetings,
Gyula





Ghazanfar_Ali

Hi Gyula
Thanks for your appreciation. I went through the link and read about Mr.Szili's circuit. It is of course similar to that of mine but u will notice that I am using only one voltage source which is driving the pulse generator (5V DC). Instead of other voltage source i am using C2 4700uF which is initially charged to 24V DC. Well interestingly I am using 18uF Capacitor in parallel with L1 to make it a Tank circuit well tuned to provide oscillation. By introducing 18uF C1 I am getting the phenomenon by which C2 never gets discharged and drives the whole circuit to produce high voltage across L1. The kick offs at this resonant state keep C2 charged. So I think its a lot of achievement. U just have to tune the circuit to its resonant frequency. One more thing as I wrote 1nsec is the minimum acceptable rise and fall time for the pulses in my circuit. Where as in Mr Szili's circuit he says that rise time should be less than 10nsec. I have tested my circuit for rise and fall time between 1nsec and 500nsec and best results are between 250nsec and 500nsec. i am attaching the performance at 500nsec. See the readings. Pertaining to your query about losses addressed in the pspice model, I am sorry I never went into that detail at simulation level. I know the results would be different at hardware level but not totally different.
Thanks once again for your response.
Kind Regards
Ghazanfar Ali

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Quote from: Ghazanfar_Ali on January 17, 2012, 01:40:10 PM
Input Power 5V * 13.397mA = 0.66985mW
Output power 200V * 457.656mA = 90.3312W  :)

Those calculations are conceptually invalid.
Multiplying average Volts and Amps yields average Watts only for Direct Current!

To properly measure non-DC power you must multiply the instantaneous amps and volts and then average out the results.  Reversing the order of these operations (averaging first and multiplying later) is simply WRONG.
Proper power measurement can be done with an analog multiplier (e.g. ADL5391) or with a multiplying oscilloscope that samples the current and voltage at high rate on 2 channels simultaneously.  In both methods, results of these multiplications need to be averaged out afterwards.