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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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ronotte

Hi harti,

using kacher powered to 18V @0.7A I obtained only a 'red filament' condition from my 240V/60W lamp... Nice fact is that best output when good Trumpet waveform.
Using neon sign electronic dimmerable source (Ventex)  at his minimum 6KV output @35KHz (20W input at 120V home rail) I have had better output, more light but far, very far from any OU. Anyway I've not been able to duplicate the effort shown by Wesley in his previous or last videoclip.
At least for the moment I'm not going to make videoclip as I've problems with my video camera.

Regards

Roberto

ronotte

@wattsup,
thank you a lot for your considerations, while studying what written, I urge you to see last 'schematic ver.2' released by Wesley: THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL SECONDARY. THE ONLY ONE SECONDARY IS REFERRED TO GND; no connection either between the TBC's secondary and pickup coil center tap. I do not know the why of that. Wesley, please clarify that point :)
Thanks
Roberto

Note: I have tried to feed back in several ways the center tap connection to the kacher in order to try to establish a positive reaction so possibly extending the diverging trumpet...up to now without success: the circuit quit or changes only a little his operatimg point.

Magluvin

The feed back wire shown in the more recent drawings is more likely  to help C2 charge faster than with Avramenko alone. The feed back wire is connected to the other end of the flyback transformers secondary and has a path to C2 through the capacitance of the output transformers windings.

If someone will, disconnect the transformer from the circuit and measure the capacitance between the primary(caduceus) coil and the secondary. Some builders will have different capacitance here, depending on how closely they follow the prescribed way. This may affect the outcome.

It may be possible to replace using the output transformer as a capacitor for this purpose, with a HV cap and go direct to the primary(caduceus) side from the secondary of the flyback.. Then we have the capability of changing the value of that capacitance easier than modifying the coils to do so.   ;)

I think I explained it earlier and shown a vid of the same effect with an AV plug and an ignition coil, using the can of the ign coil as part of the capacitive circuit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3WmK3qrws

Being that the spark gap near c2 is a broken path, the feed back wire more likely gives more of a half wave rectifying effect. So 1 of those 2 diodes is working harder than the other. 



Mags

forest

wattsup is right, we need more info of flyback circuit, especially inductance of primary/secondary and capacitance connected to primary. Unfortunately we can't measure the length of secondary to compare to frequency put into primary.Can we ?? This is the question I 've always asking. I have a few flybacks most of them sealed type with diode and the ability to know length of wire in secondary would be very useful.


I suspect that here flyback is driven according to Don Smith criteria ; resonance of LCR on primary and resonance with 1/4 wavelength on secondary. The same secret is visible in delamorto last video of self-running circuit powering 60W bulb with custom-made katcher device.

wattsup

Quote from: ronotte on February 01, 2012, 12:12:15 PM
@wattsup,
thank you a lot for your considerations, while studying what written, I urge you to see last 'schematic ver.2' released by Wesley: THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL SECONDARY. THE ONLY ONE SECONDARY IS REFERRED TO GND; no connection either between the TBC's secondary and pickup coil center tap. I do not know the why of that. Wesley, please clarify that point :)
Thanks
Roberto

Note: I have tried to feed back in several ways the center tap connection to the kacher in order to try to establish a positive reaction so possibly extending the diverging trumpet...up to now without success: the circuit quit or changes only a little his operatimg point.

@ronotte

Yes I know about that one but it does not work. I will only believe if I can see it work. What that circuit is asking of the HV is to produce both the positive and negative power transfer (voltage and amperage) only via the HV+ to the CC then to the load side. No way will that work so I don't really know why such circuits are produced and posted. For me, the only real circuit out there is the original one when @stivep was visiting and as our only real on site witness of the event, I have total confidence in @stiveps video of that event. If something works one way, why the heck would you even consider another way until everyone has replicated the first way. If they would have done my test on day one, you would have had 100s of guys making their own flybacks with an SFC by now and we would not be at this stage today. For some unknown reason it seems like this one question is always diverted, but why I don't know.

I will now remove my present flyback (since I do not want to alter it) and work towards a good analog to the TBC110 as now I have tested enough other ways to see that this is the last way I have not tried yet. We will see soon enough.

Maybe on your Katcher coil, consider adding a third coil over the mini-Tesla coil. Maybe a little thicker wire and at least 20 turns with a tap at every 5 turns would give you Open-5T-tap1-5T-tap2-5T-tap3-5T-Open. Then put your HV- from the mini-Tesla to the open end of the 20T and put the other side of that to your CC center tap. Then add a small capacitor on Tap 1 and 2 or 2 and 3. You will have to try it from each side of the new coil to see which is the best polarity match. Then add a ferrite core in the center of the Katcher and see what happens. That would be a quick way for Katchers to test the TBC110 set-up. 

Actually, the Yoke builds could be tested this way as well. The 50T can be the primary, the 150T is the HV and the 15T is the SFC. Maybe not the right turn mix or coil/core positioning but still a good way to test for any weird effects. Ideally though with a yoke, the coils would have to be wound centered over the gaps but still, at least you can test the coiling as they are now.

wattsup