Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[wattsup]

@All

Very interesting stuff guys. That is one hell of a flyback shown on the FreeEnergy site.

For those regarding the TBC-110 manufacturing, I have been talking with Bob for the last week. I provided complete build specs for what I am calling each of the two models.

TBC-110-OU (OU for overuntiy - hic.hic)
TBC-110-OU-DR (DR for Dual Reverse)

Basically they are charging a $1000 first time set-up charge for the first unit TBC-110-OU which is like the standard TBC model of Lithuania. I asked for the HV coils to be vacuum silicone sealed so it can be dissected if need be. The other option was vacuum epoxy sealed for once we know the flyback works.

I figure this is a small price to pay to have a flyback makers attention. Once that first start-up is done and we are talking the same language and things are starting to get done, this is worth gold to any OUer. (like me he-he).

Afterwards, for following units he says would be in the $350 range each.

I figure that any flyback in the TBC type, first if you can find one and second if brand new would cost around $250-$300 each easy. If you can find it on e-bay maybe $60-$150 used. So Bobs price is well in the ballpark. If not only the materials but the labor work is enough to warrant it. From that point level to then making these flybacks in an automated fabrication would required higher quantities only if any such device became viable for mass replications. We ain't there yet. lol

Bob says let's start with the TBC-110-OU standard unit that is used by the WNYg guys and it is an easier HV wind of 1100 turns going one way. The UU-60 core is rather big and can handle up to 500 watts so there should be no problem with the core.

About the TBC-110-OU-DR.......

The problem for the OU-DR unit HV side having dual reverse HV coils with one each open ended wire embedded inside the coil, will be harder to do. At 30kv isolation, there will be about 1/4" or more of dielectric matter between the CW and CCW winds.

Anyways, now that Bob knows exactly what is required he will be firming up his price and get back to me shortly. My mouth is just watering thinking about having one of these flybacks on my workbench. If there is anyone else interested in the first units, just send me a PM. You have to calculate unit purchase, transport and your particular duty situation although it would be easy to mark on the device (Sample - No Commercial Value) since this is not for resale and used purely for R&D.

wattsup

[verpies]

Why did this thread abandon the working Yoke device and is wasting time on non-working sparklers, while so many questions about the Yoke device still have not been answered ?

It used to be the #1 thread on this forum when the Yoke device was being discussed.  Now it is #9 and has less and less posts every day - an apparent deterioration.


P.S.
The "headache" and SG 2MHz limit seem to be far fatched reasons for abandoning a working OU device.

[stivep]

@All

Very interesting stuff guys. That is one hell of a flyback shown on the FreeEnergy site.

For those regarding the TBC-110 manufacturing, I have been talking with Bob for the last week. I provided complete build specs for what I am calling each of the two models.

TBC-110-OU (OU for overuntiy - hic.hic)
TBC-110-OU-DR (DR for Dual Reverse)

Basically they are charging a $1000 first time set-up charge for the first unit TBC-110-OU which is like the standard TBC model of Lithuania. I asked for the HV coils to be vacuum silicone sealed so it can be dissected if need be. The other option was vacuum epoxy sealed for once we know the flyback works.

I figure this is a small price to pay to have a flyback makers attention. Once that first start-up is done and we are talking the same language and things are starting to get done, this is worth gold to any OUer. (like me he-he).

Afterwards, for following units he says would be in the $350 range each.

I figure that any flyback in the TBC type, first if you can find one and second if brand new would cost around $250-$300 each easy. If you can find it on e-bay maybe $60-$150 used. So Bobs price is well in the ballpark. If not only the materials but the labor work is enough to warrant it. From that point level to then making these flybacks in an automated fabrication would required higher quantities only if any such device became viable for mass replications. We ain't there yet. lol

Bob says let's start with the TBC-110-OU standard unit that is used by the WNYg guys and it is an easier HV wind of 1100 turns going one way. The UU-60 core is rather big and can handle up to 500 watts so there should be no problem with the core.

About the TBC-110-OU-DR.......

The problem for the OU-DR unit HV side having dual reverse HV coils with one each open ended wire embedded inside the coil, will be harder to do. At 30kv isolation, there will be about 1/4" or more of dielectric matter between the CW and CCW winds.

Anyways, now that Bob knows exactly what is required he will be firming up his price and get back to me shortly. My mouth is just watering thinking about having one of these flybacks on my workbench. If there is anyone else interested in the first units, just send me a PM. You have to calculate unit purchase, transport and your particular duty situation although it would be easy to mark on the device (Sample - No Commercial Value) since this is not for resale and used purely for R&D.

wattsup

You are good man and your action is very much appreciated.
I was thinking.....
Brand new Chinese computerized CNC winder
http://www.ebay.com/itm/computer-cnc-automatic-coils-winder-winding-machine-US1-/170709522628?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bf1498c4#ht_2956wt_901



US $1,218.00



wattsup


The cost of first payment to manufacturer is almost cost of the winder.
If manufacturer wants to make money than let him eat the expenses he is going to sale at least 1000 of this transformers.


Ferrite core from USA will be approx $20 per piece. if you buy it.
but if manufacturer  buys it it will cost him $5 per  piece.
if than he will want to sale it for 250 per item than his profit will be around $230 ( that $20 of manufacturer cost is $5 ferrite+$5 transformer former+ wire)
Labor?
Well labor  payment is taken from his profit....
So how much labor?
$15 per hour  for lady operating  winder.
With very primitive winder it takes  5 transformers per hour
so is $3 per piece.
OK he is going to lose $3 for his labor from his profit.

Used original transformer  could be purchased for $80 max.
So if  manufacturer want to make no investment than  let him eat his S...


I understand clean $100 profit as reasonable one.
For label "made in USA"
x1000pieces= $100 000 .....wow that is not bad for manufacturer to take risk and initial expenses  on his own.


200h=1000 transformers
200x$15=$3000 labor per  1000 pieces.
=25 days (8h per day) on one machine.
Approx: 3000+2000( material)= $5000 total cost.




Profit if sold  $120 per transformer is =$100 000
- expenses for his after business hour activity
So guys who what to make  100k for less than month?


Wesley.
If it is me  that is what I would do or  buy the winder and try to find some  wire to wind it for myself.

[27Bubba]

Wesley.
"If it is me  that is what I would do  or  buy the winder and try to find some  wire to wind it for myself."

My thoughts exactly.

Having said that, I do own a cnc router with 4Th axis drive, recently build the coil wire dispenser for it and right now I'm experimenting with it. Thinking about winding flyback coil myself if my setup and gcode programing workout...

[T-1000]

Why did this thread abandon the working Yoke device and is wasting time on non-working sparklers, while so many questions about the Yoke device still have not been answered ?

We are working on it in background. There are health and safety hazards with very strong alternating magnetic fields and possible standing wave. Additional processes are happening inside of ferrite core and unless we can cancel outside fields, we cannot meter what is going on there.

I will post here ZeroFossilFuel comment, hopefully he will not get upset

"I have been posting updates to my web site at http://alt-nrg.org/Kapanadze.html  Beside the smaller yoke ferrite shown there I also have created a new one about twice the size that I have been experimenting with. When I energized this coil from a spark gap, the magnetic interference created was so intense it shut down all of my USB webcams, caused my computer to freeze, even prevented my daughter from streaming music to her laptop 50 meters away at the other end of our house! My neighbors have not said if they experienced any problems and I have no intention of asking them! LOL!!!"

So, unless you got right equipment for this experiment, it is better to stay safe..

Cheers!