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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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verpies

Quote from: energia9 on May 19, 2012, 12:53:05 PM
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btw if energy was gained as said,
that means  if you mix needed frequencies , any kind of material could be made to release particles.
If you mean NMR then yes, most (if not all) matter in magnetic field will resonante at some precise RF frequencies.
The frequency of this resonance is different for every chemical element and compund.
This is the basis for NMR spectroscopy.

Quote from: energia9 on May 19, 2012, 12:53:05 PM
so we could confirm all these with the simplest ways,
we could make several cheap oscillators from cheap IC's   
any cheap IC which we can produce several mhz with would do it.
Yes, even at prototype quantities application specific oscillators and drivers can be constructed for several hundred $$$.
What strikes me as odd, is that everyone I have observed so far, concentrates on frequencies, while completely disregarding the phase offset between the applied signals.

Quote from: energia9 on May 19, 2012, 12:53:05 PM
What about Copper Verpies?
I never tried it.  The illustration you attached to your last post mentions 90deg. phase offset, and two sine waves 90deg. out of phase generating perpendicular magnetic fields, always  result in the rotation of the resulting magnetic field.

Copper has only atomic structures that can be rotated.  Ferromagnetic or ferrimagnetic materials additionally have macroscopic Weiss domains that can be rotated besides their spinning atomic structures. Nobody investigated what happens when these domains are rotated, but their movement has been photographed using Kerr microscopy.  See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_domain

Very few experiments have been made on the effects of a rotating magnetic field on matter as a function of its frequency.
I have made only one of these - it concerned ionized gaseous matter (it resulted in ion separation BTW).

yfree

 A few days ago I posted the message below.
Replay #11573
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There is an interesting update in PJKBook on the Kapanadze coil on page 3-107:
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
"The main secret of the Kapanadze coil is the conductive ring placed within the coil. This is in contradiction to standard thinking; a closed conductive ring in a coil would normally create a wasteful shunt rather than be a source of energy. It is hard to believe that this piece of physics has been known at least since Meyer's experiments (around 1975) but it is speculated that Tesla and later Hubbard knew this as well."
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The more I read this article, the more I understand it, the more I think that Bill has it right. Bill’s approach is physics based. This article is going to break the deadlock. Read it again and again, both parts. It is really worth it. I like the second coil in particular.
yfree

cheappower2012

Zeitmaschine,if you run a flyback like most people do then yes it draws a lot of current,
and the transistors get hot.
I use a modified 9 inch black and white TV circuit board,put in a small box,about 10kv.
Remember bigger spark means nothing look at TK's devices very small spark.
in the transparent box video he started the device with a 9 volt battery.
From a Tesla point of view your going to have problem with a little spark,since this
relies on induction,resonance from my view
your creating a disruption field that effects the space inside the coil a big spark is not
needed unless you need a gigantic amount of energy .
If your referring to the 2004 video when TK removes the inverter plug while the device is
looped theres a delay in turning off.
I agree with your conclusion that theres a 50Hz/60Hz oscillator inside the can object,if you take the sound track
and look at the frequency,as the device dies it goes from 50Hz to 400Hz,I believe the oscillator

drives a circuit that produces 220v at low current,this is ran back thru a wire,going thru the
big coil,the current is exposed to this
em field,then it goes to an unknown component where the current is amplified as a result of the
exposure to the em field,then output ed.
Experiments I've done ,show that when a blocking osc at 50hz,when its power suppy is disconnected

it dies in a manner that looks like the video.The oscillator goes from 50Hz to 400Hz before it,as the filter capacitors discharge
dies.One thing you and other people need to realize is TK  is not going to reveal how to build hes device ,and will lie and lie.
You have to accumulate data,to build a duplicate that works.If TK attempts to sell the technology
because it is simple,anyone can then duplicate it and make there own device,this will stop anyone from buying hes invention.
Because of the very powerful EM field created needed,it can not be scaled up,however,it could power heavy industry,trains,cars buses,where it could be shielded

.Another thing in my view he hid the components in the can object because the device was not
meant to run very long only to demonstrate it to the suit.You don't need a lot of power to

generate a small spark,it can be housed in a small area,without the transistor over heating.
case in point on my setup max current is 1 amp at 12 volts dc.

jbignes5

Quote from: stivep on May 19, 2012, 11:41:10 AM

First  answer the question:
Tent presentation
Where  you see or you think  you might locate presence of interrupters= any form of impulse forming devices such as spark gaps, electronic switches and so on  knowing that   it must withhold such load?

Second answer the question:
Do you agree or you disagree that motor in tent presentation serves  as asinchronic generator for 3 phase.
Yes or No?
and support  your statement.




Third answer the question:
If take for a moment  that  your statement is false  and you just want to analyze what if Wesley is right than:
How would you support presence of ingitors?



Than we go deeper with your " come on story"

Wesley


Answer to first question is actually another question. What do you think is under the silver metal boxes? There are wires coming from them.


Answer to second question. First a little statement. The guys that are there are the ones who afforded the whole setup. You know this. Now for the answer. Nope the motor was just an Inductive load, with the lights being a Resistance load. They were showing the load capability of the unit especially with different kinds of loads. I would hope you do the same right? Just testing with lights would be nothing really.


Answer to third question. Yet another question. What exactly is an igniter? Is that a spark gap? Again please refer to the metal boxes. Metal boxes=shielding


Did you look at the 3 coil towers in the back. They have the same flat wound(bifilar?) coils under the stacks. Also the 3 coils in front have no stands or flat wound coils.

jbignes5

Quote from: verpies on May 19, 2012, 10:34:03 AM
You don't see me building it because of other reasons than trepidations. The reasons we don't build these Yoke devices is:
1) No access to exotic vintage ferrimagnetic core from russian TV sets.
2) Lack of needed information.
   a) Unwillingnes of the inventors to make simple clarifications to tunning instructions, see: Reply #9509
    b) The possibility that Baroutologos' explanation of the author's unwillingness to help is correct.
What argument?

My two points listed above and the fact that the inventors did not make any effort to mitigate the dangers of the apparently working OU device cut off any discussion of the Yoke ustrojstvo, are unwilling to clarify anything more to others and hide behind unconfirmed dangers, make their inactions suspect.

Instead the authors and this thread has been rumbling about unremarkable sparking tubular devices for months (200 pages), and nobody has made a single valid and interesting In / Out power measurement out of them yet.

Yeah, I know HV Tesla coils and similar tubular devices are pretty, educational i nice to play with, yet difficult to measure...  but what of them? 

There are many nicer toys in this world that consume more energy than they provide!


You used the example of nuclear reactors. Why don't you try to replicate that? Hmm a bit too dangerous?


You say energy but you really mean current don't you? Energy is a two way street. To have energy you must have voltage and current. As you slide the O
|--Voltage-----------O------------current--|.
.       -C<(------------------------)>-V
to the right the current goes up and when you slide it left the current goes down. This is the inductive process.

This means only one thing. Voltage when impinged by resistance does not impede the voltage value. This is why Tesla could do what he did. Resistance is futile when there is only voltage. Raise and transfer your voltage and then convert it in the device you are about to use. Yes there will be losses but if you look at the re-conversion process in the device you will see that somehow you have more energy. Why?

This works on many fundamental processes. When the world is looked at, heat and humidity gather and move in unison. This is weather exemplified. These are tied together by fundamental laws.

This is because of the nature of electricity to gather and hold itself together in a field. Ball lightning ring a bell (extreme case).

What about this example.
Take 2 12 volt batteries and parallel them then take 2 12v batteries and series them. Hook the negatives together and place a 12v dc motor between the 12v positive (negative of the motor) and the 24v positive (Positive on motor). What do you think will happen?


Answer: It's gonna work.


This is the way voltage works in any space. When you add current then you have big losses and no gains ever. With current you will get nothing but losses but convert all the energy into voltage or near all and amazing things happen. Especially when you properly design the device to utilize high voltages and make it safe to be around. With the addition of gathering voltage from the environment (antennas) You should have any amount of current after the conversion process back to low voltage and high current.

All of this stuff was experimented on by Tesla. If you read what has not been kept secret there is enough out there to get the whole aspect of the total of his work. Each patent reveals more and more information and to boot if you read the lectures he made in front of many PROFESSIONALS you will see he was pointing to the higher voltages. Why because losses were different(mainly corona leaks) but manageable. Tesla even goes to great lengths to reveal ways to shield this stuff from leaking out.

This is from the banruptcy court of warden cliff:

"The method was this: I had a 550-volt current with which I charged the condensers.  These condensers I discharged through a primary in the form of an arc, sometimes I also introduced in this arc a mechanical break of several thousand per second.  And I obtained a (perfectly continuous train of waves) as has been described in my patents.  The reason why I show the condenser here [Fig. 83] is that, that "condenser is" synonymous with undamped waves.  If I had shown the whole apparatus as arranged there, then I might still have damped waves; but whether I use an alternator or some other way of getting energy to that condenser, the condenser is usually there.  For instance, if I use an alternator, I shunt its terminals with a condenser in order to (magnify) the (current) in the (primary).  I then tune this circuit to the alternator, and magnify the current in the primary in the (ratio of the inductance to the resistance)!!!!.  Therefore, this condenser here stands for either method, and simply means that in this system, as is obvious from the description in the patent, the (waves are undamped!!!) because high rises of potential would (not) be obtained otherwise.  Whenever I wanted to obtain a (high potential), I had to observe these (rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) in order to (force) the (potential) up to that value."

In all the device that have gotten very near OU they all had the high voltage and low current mode of operation.

My final word to you verpies is stop banging the numbers and start helping with getting a system that works first. Anytime you say anything it is always whats the in/out... Build it for yourself then you can demand numbers at will. Otherwise why don't you become productive and not impinge on the ones looking to explain this kapanadze system or even the yoke.