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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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tagor

Quote from: grizli on September 24, 2012, 12:42:59 PM
This man claims he managed to replicate Kapanadze

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNyqMIe997s&feature=em-uploademail-new

I dont know french language .. PLEASE translate this whole video to english, very important !!!!!!!!!


I gave you the link on september , 11

Quote from: tagor on September 11, 2012, 12:10:50 PM
kapanadze has been replicated ?

look at this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNveUeEuV2o&feature=player_embedded

I know this man ... and for me it is a scam ...
but who knows ?
I do not think he is the real inventor ... and no proof of OU !!

frantz

Quote from: jbignes5 on September 24, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Ok lets figure this out from a simplistic point of view.


If coil A is the primary the coil A has a magnetic field right? And that field gets sucked into the core. How does the magnetic field cut the wires of coil B?

The easiest answer is to say there is something else involved in the process of this setup. We know there are two fields at play here. Not one but two. Since the magnetic field is contained in the core the electric field is the only field to play in this example. This electric field is the one responsible for induction and not the magnetic like is wrongly taught.

Now just how does that electric field work is the question.

refer to picture 2

Now if we understand that there is a twist to the fields that travel down the wire we can conclude that the electric field lines revolve around the wire and this is what cuts the wires on the opposite side of the core.

We have been lied to and when simple logic is used we find the truth.

Now if we apply static laws to the electric lines of the conductor That must mean that the conductor have opposite polarities on opposite sides of this mass (conductor) With one line being imaginary (-). The  's being real. In the conductor that charges group to the positive lines and the negative opposite spaces are chargeless or (-).

I'm thinking the positive lines are real charges from the mass of the conductor and if we enhance the conductor with high voltages it pulls more out of the mass of copper into the extended electric line.

As to the number of lines in a single layer I have no clue. In the second picture I believe there is way to many lines. It was merely drawn for example. If we look at it from the point of view of the world model there should be only two lines of potential. One chargeless(-) an one charge full ( ). The negative line is much the same as the Iron to magnetic fields. It sucks up charges from whatever it touches and the positive lines give charges. One is an in and the other is an out. One could take the second picture as looking down the length of the conductor showing the progression of the line pairs along the conductor. So the second picture is viewing 4 pairs of lines.
Hi jbignes5,
do you know in which direction are directed lines of Electric field (electrostatic) in wire or in solenoid coil?
We can determine direction of Magnetic field but what about electric field? Sorry for this question but I would like to understand your idea.
regards

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: jbignes5 on September 24, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Ok lets figure this out from a simplistic point of view.


If coil A is the primary the coil A has a magnetic field right? And that field gets sucked into the core. How does the magnetic field cut the wires of coil B?

The easiest answer is to say there is something else involved in the process of this setup. We know there are two fields at play here. Not one but two. Since the magnetic field is contained in the core the electric field is the only field to play in this example. This electric field is the one responsible for induction and not the magnetic like is wrongly taught.

Now just how does that electric field work is the question.

refer to picture 2

Now if we understand that there is a twist to the fields that travel down the wire we can conclude that the electric field lines revolve around the wire and this is what cuts the wires on the opposite side of the core.

We have been lied to and when simple logic is used we find the truth.

Now if we apply static laws to the electric lines of the conductor That must mean that the conductor have opposite polarities on opposite sides of this mass (conductor) With one line being imaginary (-). The +'s being real. In the conductor that charges group to the positive lines and the negative opposite spaces are chargeless or (-).

I'm thinking the positive lines are real charges from the mass of the conductor and if we enhance the conductor with high voltages it pulls more out of the mass of copper into the extended electric line.

As to the number of lines in a single layer I have no clue. In the second picture I believe there is way to many lines. It was merely drawn for example. If we look at it from the point of view of the world model there should be only two lines of potential. One chargeless(-) an one charge full (+). The negative line is much the same as the Iron to magnetic fields. It sucks up charges from whatever it touches and the positive lines give charges. One is an in and the other is an out. One could take the second picture as looking down the length of the conductor showing the progression of the line pairs along the conductor. So the second picture is viewing 4 pairs of lines.
and @frantz:
You might be interested in this document: http://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Scholarship/InducedElectricField.pdf
With the risk of having misunderstood what you are trying to say with :
QuoteThis electric field is the one responsible for induction and not the magnetic
like is wrongly taught.
Then according to this statement, the core would be obsolete for a transformer and could as well be omitted if it is only the electric field
that matters? Maybe you are referring to an unusual "induction" (if you could even call it like that) like what happens in Kapanadze`s device,
but "ordinary" induction is very much dependent on the core as we all know and i don't see where things are wrongly taught about that.



frantz

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on September 25, 2012, 05:06:00 AM
and @frantz:
You might be interested in this document: http://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Scholarship/InducedElectricField.pdf
With the risk of having misunderstood what you are trying to say with :Then according to this statement, the core would be obsolete for a transformer and could as well be omitted if it is only the electric field
that matters? Maybe you are referring to an unusual "induction" (if you could even call it like that) like what happens in Kapanadze`s device,
but "ordinary" induction is very much dependent on the core as we all know and i don't see where things are wrongly taught about that.


Hi xenomorphlabs,
thanks for document. If I correctly understand this document, the lines of E field for solenoid coil are circular around coil, and it is not perpendicular to the axis of coil...? Correct?

And how look the direction of the vectors of E field, depending on the direction of the current in the coil and winding of the coil (CW or CCW)?

Regards

jbignes5

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on September 25, 2012, 05:06:00 AM
and @frantz:
You might be interested in this document: http://usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Scholarship/InducedElectricField.pdf
With the risk of having misunderstood what you are trying to say with :Then according to this statement, the core would be obsolete for a transformer and could as well be omitted if it is only the electric field
that matters? Maybe you are referring to an unusual "induction" (if you could even call it like that) like what happens in Kapanadze`s device,
but "ordinary" induction is very much dependent on the core as we all know and i don't see where things are wrongly taught about that.


Well if you remember this one simple observation. You cant have one field without the other being present. This is a phenomena of duality. there will always be both types of fields present except for the extremes Like very High voltage or very high current. But those will need to involve a transformer of some kind or a Tesla solenoid coil.


Ok the core is very very important. It is what sucks away the magnetic and lets the electric field become prominent. I didn't say that it wasn't needed. In fact the Tesla method or revolving magnetic field now makes more sense. I think the magnetic field is still tied to the electric field because the magnetic field is in loops around the wire still. Part of the magnetic field is pulled into the iron but not all of it when wire is wound around the core. This has to do something that can and will effect the electric fields direction and speed(slows).


The second picture I drew has a missing directional arrows. Those arrows should be either a left or right direction when looking down the conductor in the middle. This might be because the magnetic loops join and spiral up or down the conductor, forming a longer loop on the fly. This is where I think looking at DNA will help us. The spiral of DNA should give us the biggest clue because the matter of DNA is reactant to the electric portion of the two fields. With the magnetic being the core line of the two halves of DNA. But I havent worked that part fully out yet or this whole way of looking at the fields and how they interact.


I don't know it all and what I have put together is very little of the process at best. It could be that the two different lines have different weights, meaning that one is heavier or longer then the other. Or as Tesla figured out one predominates over the other and this is what gives a charge a specific value. Think of it like this, ---------*+++++++++++++++++++ = Positive line pair,   ---------------------------------*+++++++----- =negative line pair. The * is either a conductor or charge.


This isn't the first time I have suggested this process. And I'm still on the fence if this is the true method of this process. This goes way back to my older theories about this stuff but it does make more sense when we apply static rules to the matter of the conductor. There is plenty of real evidence out there that supports this hypothesis. Most of which is of the magnetic field.

I am also thinking that the electric field in order of it's appearance when a conductor gets energized is the first to form then establishes connections which pull charges into the inner field of the electric lines and forms the magnetic loops. the heavy magnetic lines are the concentration of charges around the conductors with the electric lines being the in and out of these charges. The electric field is therefore the highway of the input to magnetic lines and it's strength. It allows free charges to become the magnetic field by guiding the charges back to the conductors for which the electric field comes out of. In this sense the electric field is a highway for charges and there is a constant movement of charges  in and out as the charges fly twords the conductor then touches imparts it's charge then becomes neutral or balanced charges then flies away. Let me show you a video of static charging something and how it moves back a forth ferrying charges back and forth.

I'll add it in an edit...

*Edit*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT4UVsfZkwg

This is another classic example but using metals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLSYPRYQ0nU&feature=related

We must also understand that all metals have a crystalline base. When a charge slams into the metal it creates voltage as well. Tesla even knew this as reported by him.

Picture included: