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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Farmhand

Quote from: jbignes5 on February 19, 2013, 09:13:06 AM
I think this is the best representation of the capacitor question you posed.


http://www.csun.edu/~gsl05670/labs/cap_plate_sep_volt.htm

It works with voltage and charge. Not energy persay. Energy in my opinion has an active definition and not a standing definition..
Active meaning to do something and standing meaning potential to do something or hasn't done anything yet.

Anyways see how they talk about charge and voltage. Where they store charge in the electric field?
My take on this is that the charge is based  in the structure of the object and represented on the surface of an object. The electric field allows those charges to be represented on the other surface. I don't think the field stores anything. The field organizes and allows charges to pose or influence the other side of the space via the electric field between the plates.

The easiest representation of a capacitor is a diaphragm. Nothing actually moves from plate to plate this is accomplished by the ability of the electric field to originate from one charge structure and motivate the other plate via the electric field. It is a static device. No current moves through the device and if it does odds on are if it does conduct it is a dielectric break down and ruins the capacitor. Some capacitors have a self healing ability, such as in the case of the electrolytic capacitor. These breakdowns can be seen if you take the cap apart. There will be little scars on the surface of the plates where the oxide was burnt away. The healing type of caps like the electrolytic caps use the liquid inside to repair the breach and re-oxidize the breach.

As you can see there are a Great many ideas that are not agreeing with one another in our scientific theories. This waffling back and forth of accepted theories only goes to confuse us and most are designed to do just that.This is the crux to our problem. And hence is the problem we all face. No wonder many are confused about this stuff.

Commonly that is called Potential energy for the non active, I think. No Biggie. Semantics. Displacement current is how capacitors work.

Cheers

elementSix

In Tesla's Apparatus for producing currents of high frequency and potential, he charges the capacitors in parallel and then discharges them in series.

elementSix

Quote from: verpies on February 19, 2013, 05:21:29 PM
The coils do not store energy as voltage. Ideal inductors store energy as electric current/magnetic field ( W= ½LI2 ) and they don't lose that energy only while they are shorted.
What do you mean by "back voltage" ?

I believe that Tesla's Bilfilar pancake coils used as transformers can store and/or magnify the voltage in the coils..

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: Farmhand on February 19, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
Capacitors are non linear devices ie. if we take a 1000uF capacitor and charge it to 100 volts we have 5 Joules of potential energy.
If we then charge the 1000uF capacitor to 200 volts it will have 20 Joules of potential energy, which is 15 joules more for the same voltage increase.
Then to charge the 1000uF to 300 volts it will have 45 Joules of potential energy which is 25 Joules for that 100 volt increase.

One 2uF capacitor at 10 volts is 100 microjoules so two capacitors equals 200 microjoules and a 1uF capacitor at at 20 volts is 200 microjoules so that's unity.

Cheers
Of course capacitors are non linear (voltage/energy). So this does not contradict anything regarding my calculations.

Regards

yfree

Quote from: elementSix on February 19, 2013, 07:12:11 PM


I believe that Tesla's Bilfilar pancake coils used as transformers can store and/or magnify the voltage in the coils..
Yes, Tesla pancake coil when used in a transformer, can magnify voltage. It is very unlikely, though,  that it would produce additional energy. Anything that relates to the previous sentence, written by Tesla, is not made public.