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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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gyulasun

Quote from: x_name41 on March 15, 2013, 07:13:15 PM
not this scheme error! here not 50hz. modulation!, not capacitor-coil and not resonance

this is correct scheme!

Hi x_name41,

Thanks for the link to the schametic and would like to ask some questions if you could answer:

1) Why does the resistor in series with resonant tank circuit L1-C have this value: 200-300 kOhm?  It seems to me a rather high value and may dissipate too much useful output power.  Because output power must go through this resistor, coming from L2. It is okay that L1-C also has a high value impedance at its resonant frequency, still the 200-300 kOhm seems too high for me.

2) Do you know the frequencies involved?  I mean: what is the approximate  frequency for the generator driving the MOSFET switch?    Also, is it known what frequency the audio power amplifier is driven with?  maybe with 50 Hz as shown in the amplifier drawing symbol?   BUT you say above: not 50 Hz.

3)  If this setup is self-running, what insures there is no runaway situation here?  Because there is a feedback transformer from the AC output to the DC supply input and in the video there is no any battery shown like in the schematic of your link.  IF a battery is included, then it can nicely work as a 'voltage regulator' and a runaway situation is not likely to happen.

Thanks,  Gyula

This is for you:
(google translation, sorry)

Благодаря за връзката на schametic и би искал да задам няколко въпроса, ако можете да отговорите:

1) Защо резистор в серия с резонансната верига резервоар L1-C имат тази стойност: 200-300 Kohm? Изглежда ми доста висока стойност и може да се разсее прекалено много полезна изходна мощност. Тъй като изходна мощност трябва да мине през този резистор, идващи от L2. Това е добре, че L1-C също има висок импеданс стойност на резонансната му честота, все още 200-300 Kohm изглежда твърде висока за мен.

2) Знаете ли честотите? Искам да кажа: това, което е приблизителната честота за генератора управление на MOSFET ключ? Също така, не е известно каква честота се задвижва с аудио усилвател на мощност? може би с 50 Hz, както е показано в графичен символ усилвател? Но вие казвате по-горе: не 50 Hz.

3) Ако тази настройка е самостоятелно движение, това, което застрахова не е беглец положението тук? Защото има обратна връзка трансформатор от изхода AC входното DC и във видеото не е всяка батерия, като в Схема на вашата връзка. Ако батерията е включен, а след това тя може да добре да работят като "регулатор на напрежение" и беглец ситуацията не е вероятно да се случи.

x_name41

Quote from: gyulasun on March 16, 2013, 04:23:37 PM
Hi x_name41,

Thanks for the link to the schametic and would like to ask some questions if you could answer:

1) Why does the resistor in series with resonant tank circuit L1-C have this value: 200-300 kOhm?  It seems to me a rather high value and may dissipate too much useful output power.  Because output power must go through this resistor, coming from L2. It is okay that L1-C also has a high value impedance at its resonant frequency, still the 200-300 kOhm seems too high for me.

2) Do you know the frequencies involved?  I mean: what is the approximate  frequency for the generator driving the MOSFET switch?    Also, is it known what frequency the audio power amplifier is driven with?  maybe with 50 Hz as shown in the amplifier drawing symbol?   BUT you say above: not 50 Hz.

3)  If this setup is self-running, what insures there is no runaway situation here?  Because there is a feedback transformer from the AC output to the DC supply input and in the video there is no any battery shown like in the schematic of your link.  IF a battery is included, then it can nicely work as a 'voltage regulator' and a runaway situation is not likely to happen.

Thanks,  Gyula

This is for you:
(google translation, sorry)

Благодаря за връзката на schametic и би искал да задам няколко въпроса, ако можете да отговорите:

1) Защо резистор в серия с резонансната верига резервоар L1-C имат тази стойност: 200-300 Kohm? Изглежда ми доста висока стойност и може да се разсее прекалено много полезна изходна мощност. Тъй като изходна мощност трябва да мине през този резистор, идващи от L2. Това е добре, че L1-C също има висок импеданс стойност на резонансната му честота, все още 200-300 Kohm изглежда твърде висока за мен.

2) Знаете ли честотите? Искам да кажа: това, което е приблизителната честота за генератора управление на MOSFET ключ? Също така, не е известно каква честота се задвижва с аудио усилвател на мощност? може би с 50 Hz, както е показано в графичен символ усилвател? Но вие казвате по-горе: не 50 Hz.

3) Ако тази настройка е самостоятелно движение, това, което застрахова не е беглец положението тук? Защото има обратна връзка трансформатор от изхода AC входното DC и във видеото не е всяка батерия, като в Схема на вашата връзка. Ако батерията е включен, а след това тя може да добре да работят като "регулатор на напрежение" и беглец ситуацията не е вероятно да се случи.
ok, no problem. So first 50hz this is Amplitude modulation Resonance because possibility powered home electronic devices but can and no used resistance 200-300kohm (without resistance)!. finally power supply voltage can be different (24,36,48V) :)

C=4,7nF/6,3kV.
L1=8 turns pipe for air conditioner
L4=1 turns foil-coil

gyulasun

Thanks,  and what could be the frequency which is modulated by the 50 Hz?   Maybe in the some 10 - 70kHz range?

Re on the 24, 36 or 48V supply voltage: you must be careful because of the integrated audio circuits maximum allowed supply voltage limit. 

EDIT,  Oh, I see now the frequency in the simulation, it is a single frequency though....   no modulation.

gyulasun

So you show the reactive power circulating in the LC tank can be very much higher than the input power, this is okay and known.

Problem is how you extract the reactive power....

One suggestion on the forums is to drive through the reactive current via the ground.  In the video you linked to (1kW with the 3 bulbs) there is only a single ground wire connection to the metal pipe, so how the big reactive power is utilized?



x_name41

Quote from: gyulasun on March 16, 2013, 06:15:24 PM


Problem is how you extract the reactive power....

One suggestion on the forums is to drive through the reactive current via the ground.  In the video you linked to (1kW with the 3 bulbs) there is only a single ground wire connection to the metal pipe, so how the big reactive power is utilized?

Answer: with capacitor-coil! (катушка-конденсатор) in russian ;)