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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Hoppy

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on March 19, 2013, 07:00:24 AM
Then how to suck in some energy from the environment? Since Tesla and Moray did this 80 years ago it should be rather easy to do. Unfortunately I'm a bit slow to catch on, so I'm still puzzled how to construct a parametric oscillator that keeps automatic resonance so it can continuously suck the environment. Nevertheless the energy of the environment seems to be there and is just waiting for us.



Tesla with his magnifying transmitter thought he had the answer with his attempt to create LF resonance between the earth (Tesla's 'hot' antenna) and his virtual system earth. This involved an enormous level of source energy from the grid but as Tesla thought, this approach does suggest that its possible to gain environmentally sourced energy, although this was not firmly established as fact by Tesla. So, maybe future experiments need substantial magnification in size. I hope to see more experiementation along these lines and much less of the self-powered device claim nonsense that is currently plastering the fora.

gyulasun

Quote from: Farmhand on March 19, 2013, 01:18:00 AM

Hi gyulasun, Isn't it possible to make a distinction between "reactive power" and "tank activity". In my way of thinking reactive power is returned or returning to the supply.
So when one corrects the power factor isn't the reactive power no longer reactive power as it is not going back to the supply.


Hi Farmhand,

Thanks for your thoughts on this, I was a bit sloppy indeed when mentioned reactive power circulating in an LC tank circuit, for normally the term reactive power is used as you describe. I should have said AC currents circulating in the LC tank circuit i.e. electrostatic and electromagnetic energies change and are converted into each other.

QuoteWhen say ie. a motor has the PF corrected does that increase the magnitude of the current through the motor or the power it output's significantly or does it just reduce the return (reactive) currents ?

Well, this is a good question. A PF corrected motor first of all reduces or eliminates its own reactive (inductive) current taken from the mains (or from its AC source) and this AC source or the mains network "sees" a pure 'resistor-like' load that draws only in-phase AC current. 
OF course, inside the motor coils the AC current remains inductive and your good question comes: does PF correction increase the magnitude of the motor current?
Well I think here comes into the picture the so called inner impedance of the mains network i.e. the AC source which is normally a generator with very low inner impedance. usually transformered further down to a very low inner impedance. So the very low mains inner impedance simply shunts the parallel LC circuit (formed by the motor coil and the paralleled capacitors used for PF correction): the resonant impedance of such LC tank is immediatly damped by the mains low impedance, the resulting quality factor of such an LC circuit (motor + PF correcting caps) would be less than one in most of the cases. IF the inner impedance of an AC source i.e. the inner impedance of the utility mains network were designed to be high, then the loaded Q quality factor of such PF corrected motor could be higher than one, this would mean the inductive current in the motor coil could increase Q times higher. This is how the so called rotoverter works, putting it very simply: one or two coils of a three-phase motor is tuned to the AC mains frequency by an outside capacitor to form the LC tank and another coil serves as a coupling coil and is fed from a reduced AC voltage source, (a kind of matching between the mains and the LC tank), of course the tuning and the loaded Q of the LC tank depends much on the motor shaft load.
(Notice: to make an AC source to have a high value inner impedance i.e. an AC current source) to favour for a higher loaded Q in case of PF corrected motor for instance would have its own issues.)

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The activity in the tank is energy, but it is all supplied by us. However I do believe that the enormous currents produced in a tank circuit could be used to cause the release of energy from matter or as leverage to gain an out of phase imbalance or something. 



Yes I agree it could be a possibility for utilizing the big currents inside a tank circuit. Here I would like to mention the Russian video and a possible schematic of it drawn by x_name41, you may have seen it. 
http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg354989/#msg354989 and picture  съем с резонансного контура_70077.JPG  or the one below it.

The lamps seem to be 'embedded' into or transformed into a parallel tank circuit which is fed by energy via a single wire from a ground-independent source, represented by L1/L2, (L2 could be a even a Tesla coil I think but in the video it is a line output transformer, a HV transformer). I say it one wire because as the schematic is drawn there is no intentional direct connection between the grounded lamps and the source other than capacitive/inductive coupling to an LC tank which is driven by a single wire. 
I see that member bass has posted some further block diagrams in the meantime to show further variants of this one wire feed. (The 30kV source has one of its outputs unconnected (зaизoлирoвaть = isolate). (As I have mentioned earlier this feeding method looks like an Avramenko plug, without the rectifier diodes.)  I do not know how lossy such 'single wire' feeding into a grounded load can be, where the load 'sees' a single wire feed from the source via a resonant circuit as is shown in those schematics,  only experiments can reveal it. Conventional science says such process must have less than 100% efficiency.

Thanks and what you wrote certainly makes sense.

Gyula

jbignes5



The losses from a one wire system can be neutralized by ungrounded static shielding of the one wire itself.  Tesla has a patent for this application:


http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-514,167-electrical-conductor

Farmhand

Thank you gyulasun and Hoppy for the replies, much to think about.

I've got a two phase motor, split phase or whatever both windings are the same but only three wires come out of the motor, one wire is common to both phases.
I've been meaning to go back to experimenting with it.

Cheers

Grumage

Hello to all,
I have been reading with great interest your remarks about power factor correction. I worked for over a decade in the supply industry in the days when electricity was mostly metered by induction disc method. As you are probably aware there is a voltage coil and a current coil, so when a resistive load is passed through, the meter sees all. As soon as an inductive load is applied, current lagging behind the voltage then less torque is applied to the meter disc. less money for the industry than what you actually recieved!! So adding a capcitor to your inductive circuit lessens the out of phase angle and as a consequence you pay more for your energy!! But you will note that correction only towards unity, not actual unity.

Try this. I performed this experiment a couple of years ago and was astonished. Take one ordinary Microwave oven transformer and plug it in with an ammeter. The one I tested had over 2 Amps magnetisation current off load. With an LRC bridge measure the Inductance of the primary winding and then find the correct capacitor for your mains frequency to create resonance. Answer?? Less than 1 Amp magnetisation current. And the transformer actually went quieter in opperation.

I realise that this is a bit off topic but RESONANCE Is all.
Cheers Grum.