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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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bolt

CB  band too narrow. You would have to have amazing luck to land on 26-27 mhz and it to find the correct frequency.  Ideally you need  a full range signal generator from like 500khz to 800 Mhz to have the best chance of finding the spot frequency then feed that into a 50 watt linear amplifier.   Normally an intense pulse is used so that the harmonics fly up to UHF then Fourier  transform analysis is used to find the response frequency.  Its very dependent on the precise core material under test and the magnetic bias.


Wesley did something similar using his sig gens then using spectrum analyser to find the response nodes.  In the coleman patent they suggest 300 Mhz but it was 430 Mhz i think they gave a radiation response.  Some of the transceivers  on ebay for around $100-150 will cover VHF and UHF like 137-150 Mhz then 380 to 470 Mhz.  You would have better luck with this than a CB radio.





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verpies

Quote from: elementSix on April 10, 2013, 12:16:09 PM
Then the first pulse turns them up on their sides as they spin up to high saturation energy level.  But the same pulse will not work for the spin down, so you use another frequency to spin them back down to low saturation power level. 
It is not necessary to spin down the nucleus. To stimulate beta decay it is only necessary to spin it up.  Once the nucleus is spun-up it is more likely to break up. Once it breaks up, all hell breaks loose and you don't care about its spin anymore. Now you've got that electron (or positron) moving close to the speed of light through your core and the most important thing is not to let it escape from this core and guide it in the same orbit as other electrons. A bunch of fast electrons moving along the same orbit constitute a current loop (moving charges = current) and all current loops produce a magnetic field.  Sadly this magnetic field opposes your magnetic field that was confining these electrons to their orbits and eventually overcomes it. When that happens, containment is lost and the beta current pulse ends.  ...and the operator gets a hefty dose of fast electrons :(      Ask Wesley how that feels.

This has never been confirmed but I suspect that during the brief time when the containment was maintained, those speeding electrons collided with other spun-up nuclei and destabilized them further, causing secondary decays in the same direction as the incoming electron.  The same direction is important because it leads to a coherent emission of fast electrons (or positrons) similar to coherent emission of photons in a laser.  Normally, in natural beta decay, fast electrons are emitted in random directions.

P.S.
F.I.D. might last for 10s but the spin polarization happens in milliseconds.  That's why the pulse repetition rate (PRR) can easily exceed 100Hz.
The "break up" of the nucleus was just an "easy phrase". The spun-up nucleus just leaves one neutron exposed to collision and conversion into a proton.  In a spun-down nucleus this neutron is covered and protected by neighboring protons. The neutron never really breaks away from the nucleus - it just converts to proton in place ...and emits an electron (or positron).  Of course there are such things as free neutrons, but they are completely unprotected outside of the company of protons, and very prone to collisons - thus they decay into a proton in 15min on average.

verpies

Quote from: Grumage on April 10, 2013, 12:59:08 PM
Many, many thanks for your reply. More lateral thinking, another fall? :) What about using 27MHz ie the old CB? Here in the UK we were forced into 27Mhz FM. Now could we use the 27 Mhz carrier and apply our driving frequency to it?
Creative thinking is not bad.  It's just important to be consistent and rigorous at it.

Using a FM CB @ 27MHz might be a good idea if you precisely adjust the perpendicular polarizing magnetic field in such was as to create NMR excitation in the core at this narrow 27MHz range.
If you use a linear power amplifier with an impedance matching transformer (ferrite or quarter-wave transformer) to match the 50Ω output of the linear amplifier to the ~1Ω imedance of the coil, then all the better.
You can and should use the FM mode on the CB to vary/sweep the driving frequency around the anticipated center frequency with a simple triangular or sine audio oscillator connected to the microphone input. (the quarter wave impedance matching transformer might not like the FM deviation, though)

But before you go out and buy "burners" please decide what kind of core you would like to use (iron, brass, Coleman, copper...) and do some basic math to calculate what magnetic fields you'd need to elicit NMR in that core @ 27MHz and if the size of that core will be sufficient to contain the orbits of the fast electrons that will be generated.

Grumage

Quote from: bolt on April 10, 2013, 01:29:45 PM
CB  band too narrow. You would have to have amazing luck to land on 26-27 mhz and it to find the correct frequency.  Ideally you need  a full range signal generator from like 500khz to 800 Mhz to have the best chance of finding the spot frequency then feed that into a 50 watt linear amplifier.   Normally an intense pulse is used so that the harmonics fly up to UHF then Fourier  transform analysis is used to find the response frequency.  Its very dependent on the precise core material under test and the magnetic bias.


Wesley did something similar using his sig gens then using spectrum analyser to find the response nodes.  In the coleman patent they suggest 300 Mhz but it was 430 Mhz i think they gave a radiation response.  Some of the transceivers  on ebay for around $100-150 will cover VHF and UHF like 137-150 Mhz then 380 to 470 Mhz.  You would have better luck with this than a CB radio.





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Hello bolt,

A valid point, but surely a set frequency and "Tailor" the field strength to suit, to me seems more logical.

But can you put the output of a radio transmitter into a coil rather than an aerial?

Cheers Grum.

BTW.
Take a look at the Meyer-Mace patent, they were using  21 MHz!!

stivep