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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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cheappower2012

Hoopy
Tk is paranoid about anyone discovering hes secret,so hides it in what ever way he can.
Hes not trying to show that the device is without question over unity but maybe or maybe not overunity,main thing is hid it.There are plenty of people willing to give him money.
Hes money source is demo's not selling a free energy device,in my opinion its too simple to sell.
The video's following the motor video's show different methods,in can,in box ,only in the recent video is the active device shown.

verpies

Quote from: Farmhand on April 24, 2013, 10:09:01 PM
Yes but then the discs will not free wheel like they did. To me they did not seem to be belted (EDIT: to a drive motor) unless belts are tight they slip and cause drag when tight. If there was a belt inside the device driving the rotor one would be able to feel the belt when the rotor is moved by hand. EDIT: I mean if it was attached directly to a drive motor.
This is a 50cm and 80kg rotor.  Its moment of inertia is huge and would overshadow any belt "feel" and drag at 2cm radius. Anyway, the rotor does experience drag - it does not even free-wheel for 3 minutes despite this huge moment of inertia.

Quote from: Farmhand on April 24, 2013, 10:09:01 PM
With a swing in drive assembly the rotor free spins once power is removed and would be silent.
I know that type of swing mechanism but I don't think you can hide it in pillow blocks.  I posted a drawing of my solution for you - you could do the same for me.

Quote from: Farmhand on April 24, 2013, 10:09:01 PM
The main point is there is enough room to hide a butchered steer in the aluminum box. Anything could be in there.
Yes, but how can that steer transfer mechanical energy to the rotor?
The only physical contact with the rotor is through those pillow block bearings. There are no friction rollers at the rims of the disks.

Farmhand

Quote from: verpies on April 25, 2013, 02:21:00 AM
This is a 50cm and 80kg rotor.  Its moment of inertia is huge and would overshadow any belt "feel" and drag at 2cm radius. Anyway, the rotor does experience drag - it does not even free-wheel for 3 minutes despite this huge moment of inertia.
I know that type of swing mechanism but I don't think you can hide it in pillow blocks.  I posted a drawing of my solution for you - you could do the same for me.
Yes, but how can that steer transfer mechanical energy to the rotor?
The only physical contact with the rotor is through those pillow block bearings. There are no friction rollers at the rims of the disks.

I'm trying to explain how that kind of sound could be coming from the setup more than anything. It sounds like a steel disc on a motor like a circular saw blade.

If the rotor is not free wheeling then I would agree with the belt, but what of the drag created by the drive motor ?
How to make it look as if there is no driving motor connected ? By using a mechanism to disengage the motor from the pulley driving the rotor with the belt.

You could say your drawing could simply be enhanced by adding a disengaging mechanism as I described. Like a car starter motor effect kind of. Except it only requires the initial torque to swing it in to engage and when power is cut it swings back away, any such disengaging mechanism could be made quite easily. is my point, to make it better.  :)

The 9 volt battery is like the car key, when it is turned the motor engages and the setup spins the rotor, the 9 volt battery would simply power a relay to supply the power to the motor from a battery bank. Theoretically. I'm not making any accusations, just a devils advocate theory.

Cheers

verpies

Quote from: Farmhand on April 25, 2013, 02:36:50 AM
If the rotor is not free wheeling then I would agree with the belt, but what of the drag created by the drive motor ?
If you study different types of electric motors you'll notice that some of them do not exhibit any cogging or drag when their supply circuits are open. e.g. Russian electric juicer motors are of that type.

Quote from: Farmhand on April 25, 2013, 02:36:50 AM
I'm trying to explain how that kind of sound could be coming from the setup more than anything. It sounds like a steel disc on a motor like a circular saw blade.
Do you think that the drive mechanism was engineered to make that saw-sound or the sound arised accidentally as the result of the drive mechanism's construction ?

If the frequency of that sound is constant and the nature of propulsion is mechanical then it means that something is slipping quietly.  That is not very plausible considering the huge moment of inertia involved.

However, the whole idea of belt in the pedestal is negated by the gap under the pedestals which you can see here.

stivep