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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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steadyfield

Quote from: magpwr on August 08, 2013, 08:14:29 AM
Hi steadyfield,


I have a HV module with an output of around 3-4kV sinewave .It draws 12V 0.85A DC when running.Can I use it in this device?
Ans:For merely finding out the resonance of the hand assemble coil this might do the trick for a start.In kapanadze base on observed spark ,i only think the voltage is much higher maybe around 8KV ....15KV.But once you ever did change hv coil to higher KV.That frequency may change again so your coil can be calibrated to match source. 

For the spark gap,I have a few 470V surge arrester(gas discharge tube). Can I connect them in series to substitute the spark gap? How many of them do I need?
Ans:Please do not use  those.Try to construct a adjustable spark gap or as mentioned use motor vehicle spark plug(used or unused) but the spark gap need to be made narrow.This can be done by using hammer or piler to knock down the L shape a bit so that it's closer to the center of spark plug.I'd believe this save time.

For the coil,I wound approx 90 turns bifilar. I measured its inductance using a LC meter and it says 115.34uH. When I inserted a few ferrite toroids into it (not too deep), its inductance increased a little bit.
Ans:Nothing to talk about as inserting ferrite into core would increase inductance.

The diameter of the coil is 7.5cm (about 3 inches)
Ans:To be honest the diameter even if the measurement is off a bit it doesn't matter.Since you will need to match "resonance frequency" from hv to (receiver/Kapanadze coil you are constructing).

now I wonder how many turns the resonator coil is and in which way it is wound.
Ans:Not really important once you know the frequency of your Hv transformer.You should able to derive the estimate coil winding with the moveable center core.

and the last question is, how can I get its resonant frequency?
Ans:you will need to tune your coil slowly using ferrite in or out until you get peak voltage.Likely there is more than 1 peak to peak if you move ferrite slowly.But you will need to use the one with the highest peak output from your coil.

This 2 video i'm sure should be sufficient to get you started on how to get resonance using peak to peak observation on oscilloscope.

Finding resonance of telsa coil - 2 ways with and without oscilloscope.I suggest use the oscillioscope approach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5elXZ3IicI

Kapanadze finding the reasonance -somewhere in middle of video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-QvHSyHOuQ

Do revert back once you got the resonance sorted out and frequency of your hv transformer.good luck.

Hi,magpwr
well,here's another schematic with the same coil configration.
If you look the schematic carefully,you'll find that the resonator coil L3 is wound cw then ccw.So the magnetic field that the L3 generated is zero.
The L2 and L1 are wound in the same direction.The end of L1 is connected to the end of L2 through the load,so the magnetic fields that L2 and L1 generate cancel each other.So the sum of the inductance of the coil L1,L2 and L3 is nearly zero.It's likely that L1,L2 and L3 forms an inductor with an inductance of zero and this "inductor" is connected in parallel with the capacitor C2.One end of the capacitor is connected to the ground.

In this way,we have nearly no inductance in the LC tank formed by L1,L2,L3 and C2.So theoretically,there will be NO RESONANCE in the LC tank.It seems that the the circuit needs NO TUNNING.That's so strange to me.But I do think the circuit needs unconventional ways of  tunning and there are some kinds of resonance in an unconventional way.Do you have an idea of tunning it?

I'm sorry for not being able to explain what I mean clearly,Also for the grammar mistakes.I hope you understand what I mean.

thks a lot!

magpwr

Quote from: steadyfield on August 08, 2013, 09:48:56 AM
Hi,magpwr
well,here's another schematic with the same coil configration.
If you look the schematic carefully,you'll find that the resonator coil L3 is wound cw then ccw.So the magnetic field that the L3 generated is zero.
The L2 and L1 are wound in the same direction.The end of L1 is connected to the end of L2 through the load,so the magnetic fields that L2 and L1 generate cancel each other.So the sum of the inductance of the coil L1,L2 and L3 is nearly zero.It's likely that L1,L2 and L3 forms an inductor with an inductance of zero and this "inductor" is connected in parallel with the capacitor C2.One end of the capacitor is connected to the ground.

In this way,we have nearly no inductance in the LC tank formed by L1,L2,L3 and C2.So theoretically,there will be NO RESONANCE in the LC tank.It seems that the the circuit needs NO TUNNING.That's so strange to me.But I do think the circuit needs unconventional ways of  tunning and there are some kinds of resonance in an unconventional way.Do you have an idea of tunning it?

I'm sorry for not being able to explain what I mean clearly,Also for the grammar mistakes.I hope you understand what I mean.

thks a lot!

Hi,

Honestly i'm unable to advise further on Kapanadze coil since i have not even started building.
The construction of this coil is more complex than the recent few posting i have submitted on ANTANAS /LITHUANIA circuit diagram which needs tuning.But it's only 2 winding which got me interested with OU effect.
If you check on my last few posting just few page back from 1234 downwards to...123x.

Interesting finding you have-

"The L2 and L1 are wound in the same direction.The end of L1 is connected to the end of L2 through the load,so the magnetic fields that L2 and L1 generate cancel each other.So the sum of the inductanc eof the coil L1,L2 and L3 is nearly zero.It's likely that L1,L2 and L3 forms an inductor with an inductance of zero and this "inductor" is connected in parallel with the capacitor C2.One end of the capacitor is connected to the ground.
"


Since i came into this topic rather recently i think the only member "Grumage" and maybe 2 others is actively working on this device.Do check up his posting in this topic.
This was the recent video of his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqjTHmmumU

Grumage

Dear All.

There seems to be some new interest in the devices recently posted by Sergey. And some new constructors, that's great!! I spent quite a lot of time with this one but found that the Resonator details were missing. With the most recent posts new data has been furnished with regard to said resonator. Namely that it should be 300 turns CW/CCW from center. I have posted a picture of one I wound recently. It is made of 0.72mm dia wire and wound 150 over 150 so as to get a length suitable to fall within the outer coils length. I am currently waiting for a price on some Nanoperm toroids to fit within the coil tube.

For those that may not have seen my original experiments with this device....................https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXIca35GeIY

I was using a Royer oscillator driver instead of the spark gap generator.

I hope the above is of some use to our very welcome newcomers.

Cheers Grum.

MenofFather

Quote from: steadyfield on August 08, 2013, 04:37:03 AM
Hi,
I wound 98 bifilar turns on a 75mm PVC tube with 1mm^2 wire.I measured its inductance and it says 113uH.I think my coil would be close to the original one in the video.
我在直径为75mm的PVC管上用1平方的电线双线并绕了98匝。我测量了它的电感量为113uH。我认为我绕的线圈应该接近于原始视频中的线圈。

Do not count on fixed parameters.The tunning process is more important than the fixed parameters.
不要依赖于固定的参数。调谐的过程比固定的参数更重要。

However,I have no idea how to tune the device now.
但是,我现在不知如何给装置调到共振状态。

I would appreciate it if anyone can help me with the tunning process.
I can make mistake, but maybe author of video say, that need makr strong magnetic field. This makes, then you find resonance and then from coil (secondary) gose stremers.
He put on russian forum doc file with this text.
"[22:25:10]: привет еще раз.
[22:25:14]: Привет
[22:25:33]: Сейчас рисовалку создам.
[22:26:10]: www.twiddla.com
[22:28:52] Эффект заключается в следующем, необходимо создать мощное магнитное поле внутри алюминиевой трубы, чтобы возбудить сердечник
[22:29:32] И как это можно сделать?
[22:30:03] Это будет если ты точно попадешь в резонансную частоту LC контура.
[22:30:33] Так при подключении нагрузки резонанс пропадет
[22:31:18] Нет.
[22:31:40] Почему?
[22:32:03] Из за высокого напряжения и алюмелевый трубы.
[22:32:47] Но резонансная частота будет одна единственная для каждого LC контура!
[22:33:05] то есть мне для своего контура придется искать свою частоту?
[22:33:48] Да.
[22:34:00] икак это сделать?
[22:35:06] Если частота найдена, то с бифилярной катушки стримеры начнут появляться
[22:36:15] т.е фитонка7
[22:36:33] Да
[22:36:59] Ясно
[22:37:09] Потом можно подключать нагрузку определенную
[22:38:18] Определённую?
[22:40:14] Вся установка будет работать в том случае, если правильно подберешь нагрузку, это делятся просто. Начинать нужно с 500 Вт и по 100-200 Вт добавлять. Я запустил с нагрузкой 2 кВт на данный момент.
[22:41:04] А наноперм какой нужен?
[22:41:35] Я использовал наноперм ленту с магнитной проницаемостью примерно 25-30 тыс.
[22:41:45] Какая ширина ленты и сколько витков
[22:42:06] Ширина 2 см, 17,5 витков
[22:42:20] понял
[22:43:07] Положение материала в трубе оказывает огромное влияние на работу, так что при настойке лучше его крепко зафиксировать. Наматывать равномерно чтобы виток от витка были на одном расстоянии.
[22:43:12] Расстояние любое?
[22:43:38] Примерно 1-2 мм, как выйдет , главное чтобы одинаковое"
I think maybe Гост video is fake, but it maybe make real with nanoperm. So I dont know how you help, because Гост video can be fake, because author of it put it on 1 april, but Icaco copied it, so you see copy video, but not original video an Icaco is not author of this video. Original video be deleted after about 5-20 days.