Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[MileHigh]

Indeed its strange with all opinions based on no hard facts. Even if it was true that Kapanadze sold to the Swiss, it proves nothing because curiosity alone would have attracted buyers willing to spend good money just to examine the device in their labs, with the intention to replicate. It does not automatically follow that the Swiss were successful in getting the device to run OU.

1489 pages and for all anyone knows the first clips were accomplished by him simply burying an extension cord in his back yard.  I figure if you did that in the early Spring then by early Summer the grass and surrounding ground wouldn't show the slightest trace of the buried cable.

Itsu does these remarkable replications and makes great measurements and documents himself fantastically and all that you see is transformer-type circuits doing exactly what transformer circuits are supposed to do, no more, no less.

[gyulasun]

Hi Zeitmaschine,

I would like to comment your Reply #22320 above. I modified your schematic by including two "invisible" capacitors, the one at the spark gap when you create the spark gap in the experiment and the the other is the capacitance of the antenna wire with respect to the ground, always present once the antenna is built,  its approximated value can be calculated by the Grover formula, see this page http://www.pulsedpower.eu/toolbox/toolbox_capacitances.html and go down to the middle where the capacitance of a horizontal "thin wire of finite length"  above the ground is shown. For instance, say a l=300 cm long piece of wire with say r=1mm radius and at a height of say h=500cm, the capacitance comes as 1596 pF.
The capacitance of the spark gap can be a few picoFarad, depending on structural / constructional details.

When you create the spark gap, I think the two capacitors I indicated in the drawing constitute a HV voltage divider and even the divided voltage across the gap is surely enough to fire a spark, once you experience it in the test. I think this is important to accept or debate because this can answer your question: where the energy comes from when the gap fires?
If you debate this voltage divider action, please consider the following: for capacitive dividers the input voltage is split differently than it is for resistor voltage dividers. The capacitors are not equal, and the smaller value capacitor (represented by the spark gap) will have much higher voltage across it than the higher value capacitor (represented by the capacitance of the antenna wire).

Suppose you have a HV of 2500 V 50 Hz across the secondary transformer coil (a MOV transformer), this feeds the 1596 pF capacitor from my wire antenna example, with which the spark gap capacitance of say 5 pF is in series, both capacitors are fed against the ground from the secondary coil. From this link on capacitive voltage divider calculator http://www.globalspec.com/calculators/ac-voltage-divider I got 2492 V across the 5 pF (spark gap) capacitor and 8 V across the 1596 pF antenna wire capacitor (the calculator works with capacitive reactance values you need to know for the 50 Hz operating frequency).
When you have had no spark gap created at the bottom of the HV coil end, the antenna wire obviously received the full 2500 V secondary coil voltage but no spark could develop because of the distance or height of the wire from the ground.

There is one more thing to consider: when the created spark gap fires, this spark excites a lossy LC circuit (secondary coil and the antenna wire capacitor constitute a tank circuit when the gap conducts) at their resonant frequency and then this oscillation dissipates in the coil and in the ground and energy is lost, then the secondary receives new input from the 220 V primary side and this explains why the DC ammpermeter shows a slightly higher current draw right at the occurence of the spark,  (in fact the secondary coil receives energy continuously if you let it run like your schematic shows) and the spark gap can fire again.
I think this is the operating mechanism and I do not think the spark gap energy comes from space but it is received from the primary coil input, be it the very first spark or any other later on. Can you agree with this (after considering my comments)?   

Gyula

[მოხუცი კაცი]

Almost 12 year,fake ye?

[Zeitmaschine]

I think this is the operating mechanism and I do not think the spark gap energy comes from space but it is received from the primary coil input, be it the very first spark or any other later on. Can you agree with this (after considering my comments)?   

First: Actually I would rather agree that it is (recently) extremely noticeable that some people here combine there efforts to put this thread back into circles. At first all Kapanadze devices have to be fake without the slightest proof, all fake claims made up out of thin air. Then one comes along says Kapanadze is real indeed but he uses non-standard materials therefore no hope of replication (but then, why must Kapanadze hide his device which he says is simple?). On the other thread »Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY« it works vise versa. Here it has been proven a long time ago that the Dally and the Ruslan devices are fake all together (certainty is 99.9%) but nevertheless some people keep writing page after page (833 currently) about high-end electronics just to keep readers busy with highly complex diagrams which for sure will never work. Now the next comes and try to convince me that my conclusions according to my experiments are wrong.

I got 2492 V across the 5 pF (spark gap) capacitor and 8 V across the 1596 pF antenna wire capacitor

Second: I never called the voltage into question. One end of the wire of the secondary high voltage coil has either a lack of electrons (positive) or a surplus of electrons (negative) whereas the ground itself stays neutral (regular count of electrons). Hence sure there is high voltage (difference in electron count) across the spark gap. Without there would be no spark. The question here is what does that ionization (due to high voltage) cause?

What I call into question (after doing additional measurements) is the capacitance you calculated. The antenna is stretched out on one side of the room, the conductive object (without grounding!) is placed on a wooden table. Thus the capacitance should be almost zero, not even near of 1.596 nF. Nevertheless it sparks.

As I see this, ionization causes free (liberated) electrons, Wikipedia corona discharge. Since we have now free electrons, for me that means, those electrons are free to move without resistance (not like the resistance encountered in a wire), and since electrons carry a negative charge, we have now a free negative charge to play around with. And I think further that this (now separated) negative charge is the (free) energy coming from space. (Or what else could cause - or is - the negative charge an electron has?)

Maybe my understanding of physics is a bit strange, but it has to be that way in order to get on with this stuff.

Applying regular textbook physics will lead to nothing.

The water pipe metaphor: We have a closed circular water pipe. There is water in it, that's the electrons. On one side there is a pump, it pumps the water. On the opposite side there is a water wheel. So the energy supplied to the pump is simply transferred to the water wheel by means of the water. But wouldn't it be much better to put the water wheel under a waterfall so the wheel keeps running without the need of supplying energy to a pump? Here the water free to fall equals the electrons free to move.

Of course - as I mentioned above - we do not need a spark, a spark is counter-productive (self-defeating). We just need ionization. So what does your calculation say about the experiment without the spark but just ionization?

What happens if we take both ends of the high voltage coil and bring them in close proximity to each other (creating a spark gap)? Heavy sparking occurs. Why? Because the high voltage ionizes the air, thus frees electrons, these electrons then causing a small (free) spark between the electrodes of the spark gap. That small spark then closes the high voltage circuit directly, hence a large current flows through the circuit, causing a magnetic field in the transformer, thus putting load on the power supply (and blowing the fuse).

In this experiment we can see that odd behavior without blowing a fuse. Pure voltage causes ionization and thus free electrons, these electrons then create a kind of short circuit which manifests itself in shape of a huge plasma bolt.

Maybe you could calculate that effect too. What happens to the free electrons? Are they going to be part of the overall current? So those negatively charged electrons add (free) energy to the circuit?

Here an image from Guntis, what does this image try to tell us? Any ideas?

[Hoppy]

What happens to the free electrons? Are they going to be part of the overall current? So those negatively charged electrons add (free) energy to the circuit?

What enough to run a 2KW electric fire!! What are the free electrons adding too when there was nothing there to start with. You saw the aqua2 video, apparently showing the device with no power supply. Let's at least start this next circle of discussion on a feasible theory.