Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[grizli]

He he whan we lack new ideas we talk about politics and implications of device we havent made YET 

[LtBolo]

Let's take some of philosophical math

You like to argue, don't you Wesley?

I run an electronics manufacturing company and I deal with the Chinese at times. Please trust me when I say it can't happen. Material management, manufacturing, shipping, warehousing, marketing, sales, support, etc. It honestly can't happen, and it won't. In time, yes, but not overnight and not even within a year.

Given that nobody here has even built a successful device, it seems a bit premature to be worrying about how the world will end because of it...doncha think?


So, any fresh ideas?


I haven't seen any discussions of FreeEnergyItalia's (Italian guy) claimed OU device on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/FreeEnergyItalia#p/u/12/13KPCNup_YE If it has been discussed, I missed it, so please forgive me. It appears to be a Tesla coil with some perforated aluminum plates wrapped around it. They appear to be a capacitor which is capturing the radial electric field. The perforations would be needed to prevent eddy currents from killing the coil resonance, I guess.

We have played a bit with Tesla coils in our lab. I held a piece of copper sheet hooked to ground through a 33 ohm load resistor up beside the coil. It didn't seem to cause any reduction in energy in the coil, until I got close enough for the coil to start discharging into the plate. Long before then, however, I started seeing significant voltage across the resistor. It was clear that significant energy can be harnessed capacitively from the radial electric field, possibly without a significant reduction in the coil's energy. That appears to be what FreeEnergyItalia is doing, but there may be more to it.

The only reason I mention it is that if Kapanadze's output coil was bifilar wound to eliminate the magnetic coupling, it would still be capacitively coupled and perhaps not kill the resonance. The bifilar coil...which would act as a cap...could then be tied to a transformer which could step the voltage down to something more usable. Another interesting possibility is that if the inductance of the step down transformer were high enough, the bifilar coil/cap and transformer combo might be resonant at a lower frequency...a subharmonic...of the Tesla coil frequency, which in addition to stepping down the voltage, might also step down the frequency.

It's very speculative...yes. Just trying to stir the pot.

[core]

    Duplicating Tariels device would be a great personal/team achievement. I say this because all my searching on other forums, of his invention, has left me to believe that we are closer to colonizing Mars then building a prototype. A good example is this thread that started in mid 2009. Here we are and everybody is no closer then the day this thread was opened. 

    Having said that, I believe that a fresh start wouldn't hurt. So I would like to share what I have been thinking. I myself am new to the OU scene. I stumbled across Moray by accident back in May of this year. Needless to say one thing led to another and then I came across Tariel's energy device. This device intrigues me, unlike the stories of others there are many video's that cement his invention as legitimate. Knowing that nobody has been able to replicate it makes this the Holy Grail of replications.

    One of the issues I've seen with the attempt to replicate is that there is no basic plan / base theory to help guide/nurture the flow of idea's. This is my opinion and please feel free to correct me if one has been presented. Prior to me doing any experimenting I need to create a road map or a basic blueprint of design direction. This is important to me as time is limited.

My starting point.

    A member on this forum CosmolV made a statement in another forum that created a bit of a 'fire storm'. His comment got me thinking, to quote from memory I believe it went something like this.

That coil is no good you are killing the electrons you need to 'born' electrons.

Also I believe he and others have said the following:

Don't take power from the coil

   With those quotes in my head I started to think about my 'road map'. I started thinking about the refrigeration cycle. An air-conditioning system is not an OU device but I feel that the 'Process' bears a resemblance to Tariels energy device. Allow me to explain.



Looking at the refrigeration cycle there are four main components:
(1) - Compressor * increases refrigerant pressure/temperature, draws refrigerant from evaporator.

(2) - Condenser * reject heat/energy into surrounding media it must De-superheat, Condense, Subcool refrigerant. A change of state is created in condenser, vapor to liquid.

(3) - Metering device * controls the 'all important' flow of refrigerant into evaporator by creating a pressure drop/restriction. Converts a high temperature high pressure liquid to a low temperature low pressure liquid.

(4) - Evaporator * absorbs heat/energy from surrounding media into the refrigerant. A change of state occurs from vapor/liquid refrigerant to all vapor. Superheat is a function of the evaporator.

    A refrigeration unit is a 'Closed' system no refrigerant is lost or used up. The refrigerant transports energy from one place to the other. In order to do this the refrigerant must undergo a change of state. Tariels device does not work off magic it also must follow a process. Refrigerant itself can be said to have OU properties as energy can be removed and absorbed without a change in pressure (ie..Superheat and Subcooling).

Looking at Tariels device we can make a comparison to the refrigeration cycle.

I feel compelled to have to make this statement.

I am not saying Tariel's device is an air-conditioning system.

I have read many forums and people look to start arguments.

Moving on.

   Tariel's device does the following, absorbs energy from one point and rejects it at another point. How this is done is the 'secret' but if we compare it to a refrigeration system, that also absorbs energy at one point and rejects at another, we can start to see what components are needed.

   For the refrigeration cycle to do this the four components mentioned above are needed. Lets assume or guess the following:

Compressor--> High Voltage transformer.
Piping system--> Wiring
Refrigerant--> High voltage
Condenser--> Coil A (combines multiple processes into one output) *output of system
Metering device --> Spark gap
Evaporator--> Coil B (combines multiple processes into one input) *Input of system

  Perhaps I am on the wrong track here, but from what I have seen everybody else is. Going forward my direction on solving this secret will be based on designing/experimenting around the above needed components.
  Ultimately these are the components that will be needed.

Respectfully,

Core

[cosmoLV]

core, you are on right way thinker
by the way, these comments on that forum where you get my comments are writing on when i be on happines and have lot of emotions, so these some comments what i made are not good - sorry for that, just understand my position on that time my comments were rough there (i want to say sorry)

i just post something from my private message was i said to one guy: (explaining SR device)

High voltage in specific frequency make death magnetic field = no magnetism at all if with second turn of wire are magnetised this core.
The High voltage resets magnetism, but if we synchronise this with in halfamplitude or correctly Half Wave then half wave HV and Half Wave Low Voltage, then we can turn this ferrite core in electric generator, and it work like combustion engine.

high voltage is injector and low voltage are piston, magnetic field is combustion chamber (something like this)

i don't have technical language, so i explain good as i can... anyway i have visual thinking, so you need to think in visual way too.

By the way - i always liked holographic images

[baroutologos]

Philosophies and speculations... Any experiment lately supporting at least a hint of your words?
Clearly all of us are out of realistic ideas..

...
Concerning the heat pump analogy to kapanadze unit, i think this is not the case. The refrigirant liquid has the property upon pressure to liquefy (and be heated) and upon release from pressure to vaporize and cool.

What is the analog property of electricity so as to pump energy from environment?