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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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core

Quote from: dllabarre on November 14, 2010, 05:30:46 PM
Regarding the schematic in the video:
That coil symbol that says "Light 120v/60 watt" is that really just a light bulb or a coil with a light bulb connected to it?

Thanks for clarifying
DonL

Don,

    That's is just a light bulb. According to 'Smartdraw 2007' that's the symbol they use.

Respectfully,

Core

scratchrobot

Quote from: poynt99 on November 14, 2010, 08:30:34 AM
scratchrobot,

Approximately how much power was going into the HV coil, and what are you using for your HV source?

Does the pulsed 12V current increase when the light is brighter?

.99

I was using a transformer from a plasma globe for hv and did not measure current on 12v side, just wanted to see the effect. I will try it again and measure current.

broli

Ltbolo, this may be asking too much but could you perhaps try a solid state version of your mechanical oscillator. This is quite simple to achieve by using a transformer type setup like seen below. Both q1 and q2 are hooked in a way to cancel any induced emf. But this then allows you to put an ac source of desired frequency in between them.

core

Quote from: cosmoLV on November 13, 2010, 03:24:20 PM
.......anyway, Russians are 5 years ahead in this technology

That's just a bold face lie. ALL the Russian forums that I have seen are no closer then anyone else in the world.
If I'm wrong please provide a link that backs your statement up.

Quote from: cosmoLV on November 13, 2010, 03:24:20 PMmaybe this is junk food or some stupid TV shows who are damage brains somewhere outside from old Russian countries,

More stupid American bashing. Because Latvia does so much for the world. FYI American taxpayers donate more money, out of there pockets mind you, to help the less fortunate people world wide.
We have donated more, with-in the last 5 years, then Russia and the ALL the former Eastern block countries have in over 20 years.

Quote from: cosmoLV on November 13, 2010, 03:24:20 PM
believe me: newer happened that USA or other countries release this technology it comes only from Russia, Georgia or most believable from my country

BS this is a RE-discovery of technology founded in America by Tesla.

Quote from: cosmoLV on November 13, 2010, 03:24:20 PM
because Tariel have big problems.......

This line is the kicker. Lets be mindful Tariel's own country spit in his face by showing NO INTEREST in his device. Did we not forget that he had to go to Turkey???  He has been trying for 'almost a DECADE' and still his comrades spit in his face. Maybe if they only watched more MTV in Georgia......hmmm.




Cosmo I get tired of you calling me, and my fellow Americans, dumb.


Respectfully,

Core
 

core

** This is a Long post. But please read some interesting Tesla stuff.

Essential Tesla

Allow me to share with you what I have been researching now for the better part of eight weeks. Based on my research I have come to the conclusion that most, if not all, are confused about Tesla. Yes that is a bold statement but I plan on backing it up with links. Read on friends.

I have seen hundreds of so-called Tesla coils on the internet. It is in my opinion that Tesla himself would laugh at them. Actually if he had Facebook page he would most likely write LMFAO. Why? Because he himself new that the coil was not the ‘real deal’ it is what comes before the coil that was the proverbial ‘Meat and Potatoes’. As it appears from my research NOBODY has gotten it right. EVERYBODY has skipped what happens before the coil and went straight to building the coil itself. There is no magic in just a Tesla coil, there never was and there never will be.

What happens before the coil (MOST IMPORTANT) is what I will review. It is of extreme importance that the following Tesla patents be reviewed, printed out, and studied deeply. Those who are electronically savvy should be able to replicate it with ease. Please note I will be connecting Tesla directly with OU or Free Energy. But MORE importantly I speak of a technique that NOBODY, except perhaps Tariel, is implementing.

Essential patents: a must have.

-Tesla patent # 568,180 APPARATUS FOR PRODUCING ELECTRICAL CURRENTS OF HIGH FREQUENCY.

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-568,180-producing-high-frequency-currents

-Tesla patent #577,670 APPARATUS FOR PRODUCING ELECTRIC CURRENTS OF HIGH FREQUENCY. (This is the most improved version and the last one patented)

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-577,670-producing-high-frequency-currents?pq=NTc3Njcw

The patents stated above are essential to understanding Tesla. What happens BEFORE the coils is most important. We have all heard the stories on how Tesla was amazed by the effect created by closing a line switch. The discharge created immediately after, but before, current flowed in the circuit was what Tesla was after. This was the mysterious force he sought to control. The above patents deal specifically with re-creating that ‘one-time’ effect.

If you read and study the above patents you will quickly realize that NOBODY is recreating Tesla correctly. Understand this A SIMPLE, OFF THE SHELF, HIGH VOLTAGE TRANSFORMER WILL NOT WORK. Also simple ‘capacitive discharge’ is a insult to Tesla. Allow me to share some of Tesla own thoughts on the subject matter.

Note: Everything I speak of here happens ‘before’ the Tesla coil or your coils device. In other words I will be speaking about his High Voltage device.

Source: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#35

Conversing about patent #568,180   Year 1896

Tesla
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This [Fig. 36] is a form of break which I developed in working with alternators. I recognized that it was of tremendous advantage to break at the peak of the wave.  If I used just an ordinary break, it would make and break the current at low as well as high points of the wave.  Of this apparatus I had two forms; one in which I drove the break right from the shaft of the dynamo and the other in which I drove it with an isochronous motor.  Then, by a movement of these knobs (K K), I would make the adjustments so that the makes would occur exactly at the top of the wave.  That is a form of break which is embodied in hundreds of patents and used now extensively.

Be mindful the above two devices are meant to be operated with Alternating Current. A sinusoidal wave is important. As stated in the patent Tesla refers to a ‘circuit controller’. It is his tuned circuit controller that breaks the wave at its peak. The concept is to quickly charge the capacitor with a ¼ of the input wave (peak) then ‘short it out’ through a low self induction primary.

His ‘high’ voltage generators are not continuous wave devices. As an example of a continuous wave HV device. MOT (microwave xfr), OBT (Oil Burner xfr) and NST (neon sign xfr). These are the wrong devices to use.   

Here is more regarding Tesla’s HV device. Again this revolves around patents mentioned above.

Tesla
Quote
Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course.  The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers.  I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower.  In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.


Ok read that paragraph again. Tesla is claiming OU. He states that with a 1 kilowatt generator he can produce 5kw of power.
Also note that a undamped wave a 1 Kw generator delivers 1 Kw and nothing more. Simply hooking up a MOT, OBT, NST to your circuit does nothing. Adding a ‘spark gap’ does nothing also because you have no control of ‘when’ to break the wave.

Source: http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/351ntl.htm

A Tesla lecture Year 1897

The following will be based on the above link. Below is a quote from Tesla from that web site. The description he gives below would be the mechanical operation of the above mentioned patents. The importance of the above patents have been overlooked.

Tesla
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     I have likened a condenser to a reservoir R into which by means of a pump p an incompressible fluid as water W is supplied through a feed pipe p, as illustrated in the second diagram, Fig. 2, the fluid representing electricity, the pump the generator and the feed pipe the connecting wire.

    The reservoir has a movable bottom, held up by a spring S, and opens the ports oo when the fluid in the vessel has reached a certain height and the pressure has become sufficient to overcome the elastic force of the spring.  To complete the model, adjustable weights w, a screw s for allowing the tension of the spring, and a valve v for regulating the flow of the fluid are provided.

     With the giving away of the bottom, the fluid in the reservoir acquires velocity and consequently momentum, which results, in an increased pressure against the bottom causing the latter to open wider, and more of the fluid rushes out than the feed pipe can supply, whereupon the spring reasserts itself, closing again the ports, and the same process is repeated in more or less rapid succession.  This opening and closing of the bottom may be likened to the making and breaking of the conducting path, the frictional resistance in this mechanical system to the ohmic resistance and, obviously, the inertia of the moving masses to the self-induction of the electric circuit.

     Now it is evident that, in order to keep in action the mechanism without the employment of auxiliary means, the average rate of supply through the pipe must be inferior to the average rate of discharge through the bottom; for, if it be otherwise, the ports will simply remain open and no vibration will take place.  The more nearly the average rate of supply equals the average rate of discharge, the quicker will the bottom open and close; and it is furthermore clear from a consideration of simple mechanical principles that, if the fluid be supplied so fast through the feed pipe that the bottom vibrates as it would of its own accord, then the amplitude of the vibration will be the largest, the pressure against the bottom the strongest, and the greatest amount of fluid will be passed through the ports.

    All these considerations hold good for the electric circuit, and in experiments with high frequency machines, in which these effects were purposely magnified with the view of rendering their observation more easy, I have found that that condition is fulfilled when the capacity, self *induction, and frequency of vibration bear a certain relation, which observation I have since utilized in the adjustment of inductive circuits.  You will note that this condition governing the rate of supply and discharge, most important in practice, especially when no positively acting mechanical means are employed for effecting the rupture of the dielectric, is a distinct one and should not be confounded with the condition determining the oscillatory character of the discharge investigated long ago by Lord Kelvin

The last paragraph is important. He states that ‘….these effects were purposely magnified with the view of rendering their observation more easy’ . This tells use that Tesla’s work, including producing 5kw from 1kw, can be produced with lower voltages. The effects may be harder to see.

The ‘key’ to reproducing this is when capacity, self *induction, and frequency of vibration bear a certain relation. A key starting point is the above mentioned patents. I also believe that ‘frequency of vibration’ specifically refers to mechanical vibrations of the primary and secondary coil. Remember the video of the bridge swaying in the wind before collapsing?



Source: http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/tesla.htm

Please read the above web site.
After you scroll pass the patent list there is some excellent information. This website takes you on the whole journey of Tesla’s discovery.

About halfway down the page there is a section titled ‘SHOCKING DISCOVERY start from there. It appears that the web site makes a reference to resonance but not really electrical resonance. Tesla appears to place great value into the physical weight of coil and such. For him it was ‘in resonance’ when the weight of the primary matched the weight of the secondary’. When I read this site I pictured two ‘tuning forks’, one being struck by impulses and the other receiving the impulses at the same pitch/rate even though they are 10 feet apart.

At the end there is a section titled ‘Focus’ and the first line is as follows.

High voltage impulse currents produced a hitherto unknown radiant ef¬fect.

These impulses can only be produced using the technique in Tesla patents stated above. I believe I have made a compelling case regarding having the correct high voltage supply. This can not be any ‘off the shelf’ part like a flyback. It has to work as stated by Tesla.


SO the million dollar question I have for the electronic ‘Guru’s.

Question:

Is there a practical/easy way to electronically recreate the device in patents # 577,670?

This device needs to break the wave at its peak. My lame design, which is only preliminary, can be seen in my Aether power converter thread. I think it needs a lot of work but I am no electronic guru.


Respectfully,

Core