Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[quarktoo]

Hety iceweller,

I you know so much about Tesla after your 20 years of research maybe you could answer this question:

Tesla figured out how to remove the heat from a gas and condense it into a liquid. His paper was titled something like "How to expand human growth". He postulated that he could condense nitrogen from the air and use it for fertilizer and he in fact did invent that process.

What form of electricity did Tesla use to remove the heat from mass  and take a gas down to a liquid? Could you point me to a circuit or a patent?

[iceweller]

Tesla researched the high frequency effects on human thinking from what I recall reading. I don't think his whole life is encompassed in his patents. That cold stinging discharge that comes from a DC arc is what people call cold electricity - it is electron cascade effect and that science is so rock solid don't even go there.

   His whole life is certainly not encompassed by his patents. That cold stinging discharge is simply a field effect, you are the receiver and the arc is the transmitter. It is instantaneous. Nothing extraordinary here though. "Electron cascade" means simply a DC arc o avalanche or cascading ion chain reaction (freeing electrons) due to HV DC ionising. The "sting" you can feel is the instantaneous charge released into the ionised atmosphere by the arc, depending on it's voltage, that your body instantaneously reacts to as you are mostly water with a neutral charge, exactly as the other side of an air cap plate. The "electron cascade" is not sufficient for this effect (does your ionizer sting you when you turn it on?), you need an instantaneous HV field to feel it. There is no mystery.

Now to think that the master of sparks Tesla didn't have a clue about electron cascade or the effect on a human would be silly. And what happens when mass loses energy? I gets colder (Bohn model of the atom) and that is rock solid science.

    Setting aside your insult towards Tesla's comprehension of electric effects even if the electron was not discovered yet, I suppose you are referring to Bohr's atom model. Sorry but Niels Bohr only "modeled" the atom based on Rutherford's assumptions and Plank gave it it's orbital energetic levels. What you should be saying is "Molecules loose kinetic energy" as kinetic energy is directly proportional to (generally) Infra red spectrum emission, thus heat. The less kinetic energy, the "colder" the molecule. "Mass" itself does not loose energy like that - do you all heat up when accelerating downhill with your bike or cool down when slowing uphill?

Telsa is a religion for some people - I am an atheist.

  No comment on this.

That being said - I feel Tesla was absolutely correct about the atom. It is an effect of two energies not the source so don't get me wrong, Tesla was the man, Linderman and others have written a lot of BS and neither of us were there. So we agree on more than you may realize.

Maybe if you stop being a butthead, I will tell you something about Tesla you probably don't know.

   Firstly, I'm not being a "butthead" but am merely setting the record straight. It is not my intention to start any "flame" with you or anyone else apart from attempting to correct the basic factual scientific errors.
   Secondly, according to Tesla, the atom does not have any energy "per se" but only the one received from the environment, which is what opposed him to the re-emerging relativism.  He stated that if one could shield any radio active element from the primary and secondary solar rays, it would cease to be radioactive.
   Risking to be presumptious, I sincerely and deeply doubt you could tell me something about Tesla that I don't already know or have read or heard about (including electro-propulsion, part of his still classified Dynamic Theory of Gravity), but in life I have learned that anything is possible though the chances of finding out something new (and real!) about Tesla are inversely proportional to my age and years of research. Well, if you have access to Tesla's original still classified papers (which they won't give you through the FOIA as covered by national security or as someone told me "over my dead body"), you certainly will have my full attention --- and I am not being sarcastic or a "butthead".

[iceweller]

Hety iceweller,

I you know so much about Tesla after your 20 years of research maybe you could answer this question:

Tesla figured out how to remove the heat from a gas and condense it into a liquid. His paper was titled something like "How to expand human growth". He postulated that he could condense nitrogen from the air and use it for fertilizer and he in fact did invent that process.

What form of electricity did Tesla use to remove the heat from mass  and take a gas down to a liquid? Could you point me to a circuit or a patent?

   "The problem of increasing Human Energy" which is a very extensive and interesting read - this is what you are referring to. It appears you are mixing the analogy with the Linde process and his burning atmospheric Nitrogen creating a "12 million volt" 65 foot discharge combining it with Oxygen (he was afraid he could ignite the whole of Earth's atmosphere causing a chain reaction) which are two seperate considerations. I already referred to this, and his self acting oscillator a while back with document references. I don't understand what you mean by "form" of electricity; he used his HV coil at oscillating at 100KHz. To point you in the right direction, the Linde process is used to liquefy air (you can find the relevant patent and description of the process easily) by compressing, cooling it using the "delta T" of the external environment then expanding it in a partial feedback loop cooling the incoming air again.
I suggest you reread the document as it is composed of constructive analogies, which Tesla constantly used to explain all his devices:

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1900-06-00.htm

[penno64]

@quark

on page 107 of this thread, you will find dole's circuit.

Be aware you need very high voltage capacitors.

Penno

[quarktoo]

@quark

on page 107 of this thread, you will find dole's circuit.

Be aware you need very high voltage capacitors.

Penno

Thanks Penno, I spotted that already and got some more info. from him.