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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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oscar

Hi xenomorphlabs,
thanks for replying to my posting.
Quote from: xenomorphlabs on July 19, 2009, 08:40:28 AM
@Oscar:
Okay let´s have a discussion about your interpretation.
To be correct the energy after the spark gap is called pulsed D.C. and not AC as it is not having a negative swing....

Yes, my statement was wrong and I agree to what you say.
Consequently the output after the Tesla coil (7) would have to be called "pulsed high voltage DC".
Then we must take into account that D. Smith grounds the pos. output lead from his Tesla coil in point 8.
The result is, that the pulsed high voltage DC at point p is not having a positive swing.

I am trying to imagine how that signal before the FWBR - scoped between points g and p - would look? A bit as drawn it in the attached sketch "output of 7_pulsedhv-dc.png" ?

If that image is acceptable, then let's look at the signal after having undergone rectification, scoped between g' and p'.
Note that D. Smith grounds the neg. leg of the FWBR in point (17). The result is, that the signal at point p' is not having a negative swing.

Would it look like in the attached sketch "output of 10_hv-dc.png" ?

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on July 19, 2009, 08:40:28 AM
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Furthermore (since you bring up one of Don Smith´s diagrams) you argue that 2 DIFFERENT ground potentials are being used. That is not the case ...

Mmmmm.
But please consider that p and p' always have different voltage potentials, one being always pos., the other being always neg.
What happens to the current in the output transformer when these two signals p and p' see each other on common ground ?
Regardless of whether the groundings points are physically at different locations or one common grounding point is used.
I think a current will flow in the grounding rail (=groundloop). This current will be transformed in the output transformer (16) to do work.
It is similar to how harti sees it.
I just want to point out that there is no need for pre-existing telluric currents. The currents of this "earth battery system" are produced by the potential difference between the signals p and p'.
The transmission was a '53 (Johnny Cash)

wings

Quote from: bolt on July 20, 2009, 10:18:52 PM
If you read 1930 -50's books they tell you about the "Electron Theory" and that's what electricity is only a theory not reality. Zero Point and Ambient ether whatever is left out of mainstream. Then Electron-Engineers were born to make sure the story sticks.


I agree with you.
where we can start to learn the true way?
spintronics?

lltfdaniel1

Quote from: bolt on July 20, 2009, 10:18:52 PM
"Yes my point about resonance is that I don´t think it´in itself is a source of OU, but it maybe a necessary component somehow, I´m not sure. "


Read tesla patents read don smith notes they both explain what it is.

There are a few methods to pull free electrons including Iron banging.   HF iron banging creates crystal magnetconstriction within the iron where iron actually becomes a fuel and iron molecules disintegrate! This is a powerful effect draws qauntal noise (free electrons) if you hit the right NMR frequencies. Matter is converted to energy on a tiny weeny scale it disappears I think it reappears somewhere else in the universe as you cant destroy it but everything is always in transition there is nothing static.

There are at least 20 patents on this technology that i know. Many said the TPU works like this but i think its very unlikely.

If you read 1930 -50's books they tell you about the "Electron Theory" and that's what electricity is only a theory not reality. Zero Point and Ambient ether whatever is left out of mainstream. Then Electron-Engineers were born to make sure the story sticks.

No point denying it any more  you seen the Kapanadze and TPU in action plus many others. :)

This is true, it is basicly how you extract energy from the vaccum, i also read those types of books from 1900 to whatever.
68:16 But by this, THEIR KNOWLEDGE (science - 1 Tim. 5:20), THEY PERISH, and by this also its power consumes them.

twh 1:1 Thousands of earth years ago,far away,in this galaxy,on the morning star(venus),the Lord Guardian Of Divinity,King ruler and Guardian of the Universe,put down a revolution led by Lucifer(Iblis)

Yucca

Quote from: flathunter on July 21, 2009, 03:24:23 AM
Hi Yucca!  Thanks for the tip.  But I thought I would double the capacitance of the primary circuit by adding a capacitor, so i thought this would change the resonance point quite a lot - perhaps i'm mistaken?  I thought that I'd be able to increase the spark gap distance with more capacitance, and increase the volts on the toroid, with longer prettier streamers in result.  Again, perhaps i'm mistaken???

Hi Flathunter,

If you increase your capacitance before L1 you will:

increase energy per gapfire.
increase instantaneous gap current.
reduce gapfire freq.
change the L1 resonance making it lower freq.

I think in a T coil if the top load to ground capacitance is greater than your primary capacitance then bigger streamers can be had by increasing primary capacitance so that it becomes bigger than the top capacitance, so it may give you bigger streamers.

The point I was making though is that when you parrallel up two caps that have differend ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance) and different Farrad values then you will end up with a non linear cap element whose value will change a little depending on the freq and power going through, but it's only a minor drawback and only a problem in radio design I think.

Note:
You won't be able to widen your gap any though without increasing your charging voltage.

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: oscar on July 21, 2009, 04:20:58 AM

What happens to the current in the output transformer when these two signals p and p' see each other on common ground ?


I think this cannot be answered by considering 2 to 3 different technologies ALLTOGETHER into one thought model (Smith, Kapanadze and Earth battery).
The inverter stage makes no sense if the electron flow to the o/p transformer  is not controlled by it. It is debattable if the depicted inverter is merely conceptional to simply hint to an inverter, but it is for sure wired completely wrong from traditional electrotechnical view. (NPN-Emitter at high potential). So i have no idea what signal flow Smith has in mind there, but from ordinary current flow perspective i don´t understand the whole device, which does not mean that it would not work.

So in short, i have no idea what happens between the potentials that you suggest, since too little of the TRUE signal flow is being understood.
Smith stated that the varistor shunt has the purpose "to get a better signal"
and that the capacitor is supposed to smooth the signal. After all
part of the magic (power factor correction etc.) is going on the capacitor bank.
What happens from there on, can only be speculated.
But nice to brainstorm about it ;)
You are making a valid point, which is as valid as anybody elses points here, since ONLY Smith could verify or refute anything here, because no-one else (on this forum) has really replicated the device.