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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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freshcutgrass

QuoteI am reading the whole thread but i'm only at page 100 and some...  I was just wondering if some of the readers who have been here from the beginning of the thread would direct me to the more meaningful posts as some just seem like random chatter....  I have dyslexia and it takes me a long time to read and only have an hour a day to do so, so it will take me quite some time to get through the whole thread.

My advice for reading this thread:

Take ALL you read in this thread with healthy scepticism -  keep an open mind. 

Consider this thread as several parallel threads in one.

If you read engineering, scientific or apparently scientific explanations in posts, see if you can cross reference them with supporting documentation OUTSIDE of OU/alternative energy websites.

Always question the motive of those making a post.

Don't lose too much sleep over this, it might all be bullsnort.  But if it is possible, you are never going to see it go to market.  It won't solve the world's energy crisis because no-one really wants it.  Watch the film 'The Man In The White Suit' and you'll see what I mean.

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wattsup

Oh no, not again!!!!

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Got it load and clear I hope!

Now, back to our regular programming.

Too bad though. I had prepared a few TK posts but it was not too conducive to post them. Maybe in a new thread. Hint, Hint.

wattsup

LtBolo

Pondering a bit more...

A spark discharge will ring virtually any resonant system. Broadband energy of course, no news there. A flat coil is a high Q resonator, but only at one frequency...and of very narrow bandwidth. A coil can ring to a high level when two things are true...the Q is high, and there is sufficient energy within it's bandwidth.

In electronics design, we use spread spectrum oscillators specifically for the purpose of spreading energy over a wide bandwidth to minimize the potential for that energy to affect other devices. They don't eliminate the energy, they just spread it out.

The spark gap is an electron accelerator, which in my mind makes it capable of harnessing quantum energy. The problem is what form is the result? When you build a large gap and discharge through it rapidly, the spark is loud (energy), bright (energy), and produces immense amounts of electrical interference (energy). Oh yeah, it rings coils pretty well too (more energy). Sounds like lots of broadband energy.

When you discharge inductively, it's quiet, dim, doesn't produce much electrical interference, and doesn't ring coils worth a darn. Not particularly broadband. It is hot though, and incidentally, the lowest form of photon energy is infrared light...heat.

It would appear to me then, that an effective device is one that will generate the most broadband noise through a rapid discharge...spark gap or very fast transistor...and then gather a very wide bandwidth of electrical energy and convert it into a narrow band, probably using some form of resonance.

Just pondering...


iceweller

Quote from: Omnibus on February 18, 2011, 10:07:01 AM
Those who are reading the exchange involving theory should be aware that Einstein should be out of the picture and out of any discourse pertaining to science. First off, E = mc^2 is not only not Einstein's discovery (that relationship has been known long before Einstein) but is cannot even be derived by his so-called Einstein's "theory" of relativity, despite the vigorous propaganda lying that it does. E = mc^2 is contained classically in Poyning vector let alone that it can be derived from calssical mechanics. Einstein's "theory" of relativity is not even a theory because it is based on internal contradictions. A proposal based on internal contraditions is called nonsense, not theory and has no place in science. Therefore, one deosn't even need to carry out experiments to observe that said "theory" is in fact nonsense. Einstein's "theory" of relativity is travesty of science that should be rejected outright and not used to clutter scientific discussions.

   I must say I fully concur. Ruggero Boscovic (1711-1787), a gesuit follower, actually laid out the basis of Relativity which was later picked up by Einstein (as Nikola Tesla pointed out). However this is not a simple confrontative subject and is better carried out elsewhere. Excluding the existance of an ether really complicates things. Facts indicate that real "OU" devices cannot be explained with "Relativistic" terms such as the recent successulf "Cold Fusion" experiment carried out 2 weeks ago in Bologna, Italy.
   It is difficult howevery to lay out a theory when there is so much controversy, aggressiveness and prejudice. Personally I think it is best to stick to experimentation and avoid wasting energy and time (after so much discussion with other university professors and researchers, some supportive but afraid of disclosing, some "violently" opposed). If a device works, it works whether you understand it or not, and this is the ultimate reason why many researchers fail to reproduce it based on their assumptions - however this does not mean the original device is a hoax but is a good and dirty way to discredit and ridicule.
   Assuming that Tariel's device is sound, which I believe it is, he did not certainly come to that discovery using Relativistic thinking, which precludes the conversion of "ambient energy" and relies on "atomic" energy or mass-to-energy conversion. He instead clearly indicates and relates to classical origins (he is an architect but also studied classical physics). The principle of his device is one that eludes all because it is not even considerable with standard academics, this is the easiest and most obvious explanation. It is connected to a phenomenon that is a natural one, and that is connected to resonance, or better, 2 resonances (probably what he meant by "resonance in resonance"). Now the details of the process of "energy conversion" are not completely clear, but I believe it is possible, and it is merely a conversion process of one form of energy into another. There is no mass-to-energy conversion. The device is simply a "receiver" and "transmitter" at the same time. Most people look for RF/EM emissions and consider it this way because of current thinking, but fail ultimately to grasp the concept of what it is receiving and what is transmitting: one form of energy into another.
   Everyone must understand that it is difficult for scientists/researchers/rediscoverers/professors to expose such theories as they risk mining their career, research future and fundings. Most stumble onto it and misinterpret the phenomenon (ex. Cold Fusion) and find that it simply does not add up on paper with their set of rules.
   When one stops thinking of our system as a "closed" system and instead considers the fact that everything, from microscopic or (sub)atomic interactions to planetary and galactic ones, is a continuous "conversion" of one form of energy into another, then maybe we have the basis to lay out a true and valid "theory" (such as the still highly classified Dynamic Theory of Gravity by Tesla). It is in front of our faces every single day, but somehow, some way, it is simply ignored thanks to our current "system".

   Of course, this is my personal (well not only mine really) view on the subject which I wish to share even if I am aware it will probably not be appreciated by some. In any case, I hope this rings some bell somewhere.

forest

Tariel device works on principle of tuning fork. Single coil resonance with limited capacitance and a load as resistance powered by vibration from capacitor discharge with extremely high Q.
For the best and wide range of frequencies we may use very strange coil, found in many curious FE devices in the past. Bifilar closed coil aka Moebius coil.
TPU, VTA, Hendershot and now SR193 and Cosmolov pointed to such geometry.
Maybe we could start thinking why ?
Could a static charge flow on wire surface produce electric current ???? Or maybe magnetic impulse when broken ?

Think about it.... Those who can show us actual experiment please check if such closed coil with a bulb load can power this load when treated by changing  magnetic field.
The other question is : consider a squirrel-cage AC rotor and tell me : are there any current INSIDE or OUTSIDE ? Imagine such rotor and a magnet inside rotating in the center. What is going on in rotor ? Current ?

PS Could someone post 45 pages long Mr Utkin document ? I have only older with 22 pages.