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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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itsu


QuoteBut for now, could you make this simple experiment with your scope and the 2 batteries connected separately to the 2 channels:
  Ch1          Ch2          Ch1*Ch2
----------------------------------------------
12VDC        12VDC         144
12VDC       -12VDC        -144
-12VDC        12VDC        -144
-12VDC       -12VDC         144

...and determine where is the zero on the Y-axis when the graphical multiplication is done.


@ verpies,

here the result of the requested experiments:  http://youtu.be/DsMQQFljb2U

These wave form math functions are ok for adding and subtracting, but multiplying causes "offscreen" results, or when adjusted to fit in the screen they lack accuracy

Not very helpfull here i guess,  thanks.


Regards Itsu

jbignes5

Quote from: MeggerMan on December 14, 2011, 04:52:18 AM
It was interesting to read some of the posts about the nodes in the secondary, where some have a current peak and others have a voltage peak.
At the moment most of the set-ups are solenoid based.
Solenoids are rather inefficient and according to wiki (Tesla transformer) the best transfer of energy from the primary to the secondary is around 85%. The primary and secondary have to wound and tuned with capacitors to work at the same resonant frequency.
So what if we make a toroid shaped winding?


This may be how the Steven Marks device worked.
In a video he demonstrated a 1.5KW self running generator then switched it off and chopped up the core with a hacksaw.
The core looked like it was made from a hard black foam material meaning he was probably using a loosely coupled transformer.
It all fits what is being done here.
So one test would be to see it the Tesla setup works in a toroidal config.
Its likely the field created by the small primary will bend round to follow the secondary.
Or is it the near field resonant inductive coupling as used in the Witricity devices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiTricity
I will need to wind a Tesla solenoid setup and test this first.


That has been my take all along. The problem with using a round core is this. Nothing... I tried to show the exciter/generator/motor many times and others still seem to think anything but simple curiosity about this patent and no answers. But we have seen some very interesting results and oddities in investigating these other devices.


Again for your perusal the Patent: http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-390,721-dynamo-electric-machine
and the transformer: http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-382,282-electric-converting-distributing


This has been my direction the whole time. Yes Tesla had to redesign the motors to be used for this application and he said they have to be specific to this application.


I think we are being very very inefficient by using the solenoid version and the rotating filed can be better used in a mechanical way trough induction. Even if the motor/generator doesn't produce a gain we get tons of work in the process. I highly doubt that we will not see gains.

For vehicles this is a boon! For anything else we get clean power generation from that movement (external generator to boot).


The steady state motor is the way to go and I plan on making one at some point. I have many of the parts already, with key parts not done yet.

Unfortunately I don't know much about the soft iron I got. I went to these guys by me and had them bend me up a 10" outer diameter circle of this. They had to make it in two halves which worked out well. I think the division just needs to be in half. It might need to be in quarters even. So the inner diameter is just under 7-7/8" I got it wrapped with Electrical tape to keep it from oxidizing as much for now. I want to make the motor in two parts so that it can be fixed directly. Since the iron is in two pieces this should work well. If something is wrong with the charge coils that hold it together aka Leedskalinin it won't hold together as well. We should be able to charge the iron to hold like a Leedskalinin PMH. Once this is done then we should be able to piggy back signals on the already charged ring. The coils can be wound on a machine then or easier by hand actually. The more time you spend on getting the coils set and unmovable the better this unit will perform. But also remember Tesla said this thing works off of fields. It doesn't have to be perfect it self pressurizes and floats basically in the field. But one thing it doesn't show is the control method he uses in between each part of this design.. Tesla talked a lot about chopping the signals at their peek of the wave form. I am wondering if that is what he did to the rotor's heavy generator coils. 2 phases recombined would be DC... Right..... in this case???

There is a lot to do still but I think we can do this...

As a side note the charge coils could be independent and then they would adjust inductively as we add more movement to the ring. Although the best vesion now that I think about it would be the ring that is whole. In that case one would need to use other methods like Tesla talks about with the transformer. Wire, plate and rods could be used in bigger applications. Somewhere Tesla talks about this stuff not heating the whole pieces in the same manner that a regular inductive process works. Hmm got to see if I can find that quote again.

I am starting to think that the voltage component is only surface based. The iron might be a reflector in that case making the strength of the field way different in the ring method.  It would look like an hourglass and the concentration of the voltage fields would make the center portion a super conduit for energy. and the screws would be a doughnut shaped. Rodin was right.  Magnets work the way they do because this screw is built in. Two north poles would fight each other because the screw is going in the same direction. North and south fit though because they are complimentary or screw into each other. When they stack like that they add to the strength of the two. But some have noticed that when you have two like poles it creates a lot of tension in the fields the magnets provide. This I think is because the fields are spreading out. After all they are springs. It appears to be energized but it is still moving at the same source speed. This increase is because the surface area is getting bigger in the spring on one end as compared to it's other ends speed.

This is the key. That deformation of the fields can be used to increase the voltage component for free. The Special Transformer was the totally electrical way to accomplish this. His no core Bucking field transformer with bifilar pickup was a huge improvement of this accomplishment. It was a very High capacitance and it self accelerates this current. It literally turns bidirectional current into true one way amplified constant voltage. Not to say what it does to the self inductive capabilities without reflection to the source. It samples both halves of energy in the same instant of time. No lag. When the coil receives impulses from the environment it converts that instant of time to a one way flow. This utilizes Both in a peek to peek measuring. The ping we get back from impulsing a coil is the vacuum of energy we create in the field around the device. This energy has a fluidic nature. It has density and division in that density called skins or surface. Fields also do this. We can modulate the skin and get a predictable response of this energy as the other half flows to the source. This other half is the magnetic portion which also is much akin to the fluidic laws but involve heavy inertia rules apply and heavy static attractions between itself. Iron seems to be the channel for which this stuff likes. It can move freely in this stuff but only in one direction. This is because it amplifies by constriction of the field lines within itself.

As much as it pains me to say the Orbo is the closest thing to this invention, Well the multiple toroid device as as close as they came to understanding this relationship of the fields. Everything else they nerfed. Bah so many things to think about here.

The more I read those transcripts from the bankruptcy court of the WardenCliff installation. He stuck it to him there. He read in the very process he was using to get this effect. Although the copy I got doesn't have the diagrams included. He describes 4 transformers making 4 phases. These phases were paired transformers one tied to the others input/out put bridge. This made each pair phase dc output then Paralleled the two phases and com-mutated them or something like that. It's confusing without pictures. This transcript is a treasure trove and they had to put it into legal record. He was describing the worth of the machinery and had to prove it's worth to the judge. So that is what he did. I believe this is how he filled the caps necessary to fire the impulses. Given enough surface area he could have excited a good portion of the space around us.

If we think about this and plan some safety into these devices they will never be able to do any real damage other then to themselves. The matter would not be able to handle the stress and will burn out eventually. But with my idea, a clam shell like case could make repair very very easy. Even a low tech user could repair it given enough information and suitable parts. Later versions could include self powered diagnostic computer that can easily show them the repair of the device.


Kator01

Quote from: itsu on December 13, 2011, 03:35:09 PM

Thanks kator01,

i tried some filtering yesterday by putting chokes in the  + and - leads near the batteries with
and without some decoupling capacitors (0.1uF), but this made my kachercoil to stop working :-( ??!!
Somehow it seems that my kacher generator needs the supply voltage to oscillate with it.
Anyway, i will look into this diagram the next days.

Regards Itsu

Whoops, that is weird ! High-Voltage oszillation on your batteries !. Makes power-measurement almost impossible.
:o
So what would happen with switched-power-supplies used for this Kacher-Oscillator ?

Kator01

verpies

Quote from: itsu on December 14, 2011, 08:16:07 AM
These wave form math functions are ok for adding and subtracting, but multiplying causes "offscreen" results, or when adjusted to fit in the screen they lack accuracy
Not very helpfull here i guess,  thanks.

Very Helpful, but you did not manipulate the vertical position of Ch1 and Ch2 to see where the zero is on the Y-axis.
The manufacturer of the scope has already seen this video and agreed that "This should not be happening".
This pathology can probably be fixed with a new firmware.