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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Quote from: jbignes5 on December 16, 2011, 09:17:17 PM

That method will not work. Tesla clearly states in the court papers that the higher the frequency the better the output. You are thinking in reverse here and this is what always gets us going back down the same road here. Yes having clip leads and long wires without shielding will always be a loss in a radiative system. Come on guys we need to bottle this stuff up and pressurize it. We are not seeing the same results because it is all gone before we try to use it. Shielding, shielding, shielding, is the only way to do this stuff. It is electrical in nature and not current driven. Do not think of a ground shielding since that is the way we setup this flow. The only other choice is static shielding around anything capacitive discharged or after that point. This stuff is very fluidic remember that. Seal the leaks inductively and this will power up most of these devices.


I can't speak for Stevep's device since that has a major flaw with the ferrite locking into magnet mode. Replacing it with iron should fix that issue.

I tend to disagree. In fact znel is in my opinion closer to OU then anybody here and I'm delighted by his accomplisments. Tesla worked with frequencies from 1khz and even lower up to 300khz but he clearly stated that optimal max frequency is below 35khz. I strongly suggest that as lower frequency as easier to see effects but also enterprise is going to be more dangerous.
znel, if I had your skills I would solve problem during one month.Good work !

verpies

Quote from: baroutologos on December 17, 2011, 04:08:29 AM
Yoke has nothing special according my view.
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Never run it to 1 Kw scale with same equipment, never were made accurate power measurments etc etc.

Yes, accurate power measurements were never made, which is frustrating in itself considering the fancy test equipment that Wesley had at his disposition. 
Even without sophisticated equipment, more accuracy than eyeballing the brightness was possible with a light bulb and a photodiode in a paint can.

In my opinion the Yoke device was special because:
1) On the input side, the 10W power limit established by those two PCGU1000 signal generators was pretty convincing.
2) On the output side, the eyeballing of the bulb's brightness was unscientific and unquantifiable but seemed to exceed 10W significantly.
3) The oscillogram of the HF riding on top of the ~50Hz 140Vp-p waveform, was very unusual (see the attachment)


In comparison the SAAAR Tube device (Lithuania experiment) had:
1) Nonsensical input power estimate based on the difference of power supply's power consumption with load vs. no-load. See: Reply #9256
2) On the output side, the practice of eyeballing of the bulb's brightness was as bad as with the Yoke device but seemed to not exceed 30W-40W on a 100W bulb (80% 98% of the input power)
3) The trumpet shaped oscillogram was very unusual (see attachment)

Because of the above, the SAAAR Tube device gets a point only for pt.3 and the STAAAR Yoke device gets points for pt.1 and pt.3 and maybe half a point for pt.2.
Thus in my opinion the score is at least 2 : 1 for the Yoke device, and on that basis I consider it "more special" than the Tube device.

Also I noticed that after his trip to Lithuania Wesley was not the same man - not as forthcoming, preoccupied with non-technical issues (e.g. disclaimers) and posting less frequently on this forum, his replies were wandering (not to the point) if there were any.

Maybe he got replaced by a reptilian ? ;)


Quote from: baroutologos on December 17, 2011, 04:08:29 AM
So... we proceed. Restless spirits cannot be confined to a yoke concept right? :P

You can't be blamed for moving on, but it is different for the STAAAR team because they did not finish what they started.
The permanent magnetization of the core could be eliminated by driving the Yoke device with symmetrical AC waveforms and other well known techniques.

The 2Mhz frequency limit is a non-issue even for the Chinese signal generator that Itsu was using. 
I would even pay the STAAAR team for two 5MHz signal generators, if they got their act together.

Starting with this:
Quote from: verpies on December 06, 2011, 09:09:14 AM
I would appreciate any verifications of the issues and additions marked in blue color and clarifications of questions marked in red color:

baroutologos

Quote from: verpies on December 17, 2011, 05:33:20 AM
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In my opinion the Yoke device was special because:
1) On the input side, the 10W power limit established by those two PCGU1000 signal generators was pretty convincing.
2) On the output side, the eyeballing of the bulb's brightness was unscientific and unquantifiable but seemed to exceed 10W significantly.
3) The oscillogram of the HF riding on top of the ~50Hz 140Vp-p waveform, was very unusual (see the attachment)


No argument about that, assuming the device was run by those FG and not any other additional component. :)
About the waveform, its a bit unsual but i have been able to do it with just inserting to a Kacher a ferrite rod. In my case, a 400-500 khz wave "carries" and 2 Mhz or so one. This wave form was detected by scope at L1 low turns coil running the kacher setup.

verpies

Quote from: baroutologos on December 17, 2011, 06:50:33 AM
No argument about that, assuming the device was run by those FG and not any other additional component. :)
Yup, that's a distinct possibility.

baroutologos

Anyway, to whom it may concern :) ...

In continuation to this observation, http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg307852/#msg307852 i tried to mentaly understand what is going on and how kacher works in this way.
The idea struck me and i assemble a setup in order to check the concept. In contrast to a typical kacher that runs to its main LC component (even though they have been observations that is not always so) and corresponds to a general working principle as in figure 1, in my case, by enforcing a voltage node at the top (while oscillation has been started and carefully so as not to be extinguished) the mode of operation becomes as that in fig 2.

Clearly resembles as some Tesla's odd (at first glance) coils :) . Current oscillates from two opposite ends to middle with different directions in the same time, effectively "seperating" the coil to 2 smaller ones, that their stray capacitance is charged by both the ways inrusing current. Standing wave normaly is formulated at the center (air core) while can be skewed by a ferrite addition.
So self explaining photos are added... perhaps you find it interesting :)

ps: o-scopes are 0.2us / div & 1 v channel 1 and 10v at channel 2 (resistors 10 in transistor base and 330 ohms in top end)


ps2: errata see in bold