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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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hartiberlin

Hi Bill,
why do you say "centertapped" ?

It is more a 2 parallel wires coil.
So more or less a coil, where you wind one layer and then
don´t start the next layer reversing , but just jumping to the beginning,
although it is not a second layer but "inbetween" the first layer...

So I don´t see any center tapping here and it is also not wound
like a magnet field canceling bifilar coil, but the magnet fields
from the 2 wires just add up.

Just like Tesla´s 2 parallel wire flat coil.
It just has more capacitance such a coil.
So I wonder, why it also has more magnet field on the nail.

Does this depend only on the switchon-current,
cause the coil then acts more like a capacitor drawing
more switchon-current and thus have a higher current peak value
and thus magnetizes the nail some more ?

I think the static currents must be the same, when the ohmical
resitances are the same because of the same turn number and wire length,
so the bigger Remanenz field buildup
must come from the bigger current peak during
the switchon-current timeframe.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

dole

@
I just have a question to many knowledgeable people here. Thus someone poses information or any kind of knowledge, what Tesla did in the later stage with HV-DC. As stated in many documents he just forgot AC. It might be fundamental.

As we see Kapanadze studied Tesla, end in his early oscillator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90W00Yt_PLk has similar today coil started from DC and load to ground. There was also discovered that his later oscillator have HV diodes inside, E Gray and  SM used DC to. My opinion is that AC is just conversion and nature is DC.

Thanks in advance 
d.


baroutologos

Quote
By admin,
Jean Louis posted a link to a simple
experiment with 2 nail electromagnets:

http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/bifilar_electromagnet.htm

The question is, if the ohmic resistance of both electromagnet coils
are the same, why does the bifilar wound nail coil
have more B-field ?

Is this due to the switch on stray capacitance higher
switch-on current or why does this nail have more magnetism then ?

Regards, Stefan.

I have tried this simple experiment some years ago when i firstly saw that page. I cannot verify any claim. No surpls B-field. I saw it again yesterday in Naudin's site and i re-tried the experiment with the nails. This time i measure inductunce using an LC meter etc.

Both nails have same inductunce (mine nails) and same resistance. I regulated to go through them same amount of current by regulating it. No different effect noticed anyway. Why should be any?

Bottom line, no surplus B-field by that kind of winding at DC current.

By the way
.....
I have used the biffilar coil extensively in cap-discharge and resonant setups. I have not notice any peculiar effect besides the huge stray capacitance that can replace the use of a capacitor, just as Tesla has claimed.

ps: I think Naudin posts whatever relevant he can find about the subject even if it has not any real effect

ps2: at Freeenergy info, man what you post has been repeatedly discussed and tested in actual experiments. No great fun there.

Pirate88179

Stefan:

It is hard to explain and harder to visualize.  Jeanna was the one that pointed this out.  For a long time, I didn't know what she meant, but she was right.  When you wind a JT bifilar, you tie two of the ends together just like in the video with the nails but, they are of opposite sides of the winding so that if you were to unwind it in your mind, the wire is tapped, for one lead, with the two that are tied together which are in effect the center of the total length of wire.

I am not explaining this very well but the net effect is that if unwound, you now have a wire twice as long joined in the center, the joint of which you are using as one of the leads.

In this video, skip ahead to the part where they show tying the two ends from the opposite side together (2:00 mark) and maybe this will make it more clear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTAqGKt64WM

This accounts for the strange oscillations as they are going two different directions around the toroid.

I hope I made this make some sense.

Bill
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