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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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broli

Quote from: LtBolo on October 08, 2010, 12:53:28 PM
Lucky? No.

Everyone pretty much blew me off when I talked about the type and intensity of my spark.

In the name of everyone, I apologize for it.

LtBolo

I wasn't offended, but thank you. Just pointing out why I may be having different results than others, and more importantly, trying to explain the effect we are all seeking.

I'm not excited (no pun intended) by the intensity of the excitation spark, but so far, it is the only thing that works for me. It may be that increased capacitance will make it possible to get sufficient energy into the coil without the spark being quite so high voltage...which could in turn reduce the apparent intensity. If this is simply a matter of getting a certain number of joules into the coil in a very short period, I'm sure there is more than one way to do that. Very high voltage and very low capacitance does it easily...but dang those 1" blue arcs are loud.


broli

Quote from: LtBolo on October 08, 2010, 01:11:34 PM
I wasn't offended, but thank you. Just pointing out why I may be having different results than others, and more importantly, trying to explain the effect we are all seeking.

I'm not excited (no pun intended) by the intensity of the excitation spark, but so far, it is the only thing that works for me. It may be that increased capacitance will make it possible to get sufficient energy into the coil without the spark being quite so high voltage...which could in turn reduce the apparent intensity. If this is simply a matter of getting a certain number of joules into the coil in a very short period, I'm sure there is more than one way to do that. Very high voltage and very low capacitance does it easily...but dang those 1" blue arcs are loud.

cosmo talks about 3000V being enough. This is in the range of diode breakdown voltage. Perhaps it's possible to replace the sparkgap by two diodes back to back or front to front. I think such a single component is also called a DIAC.

LtBolo

Quote from: broli on October 08, 2010, 01:22:24 PM
cosmo talks about 3000V being enough. This is in the range of diode breakdown voltage. Perhaps it's possible to replace the sparkgap by two diodes back to back or front to front. I think such a single component is also called a DIAC.

I honestly don't think that it is so much about voltage, at least not directly. I think it is more an issue of delivering a minimum amount of energy within a short enough period of time. What that minimum energy is and how short that period is, I really don't have a grasp on yet. I'm guessing that the energy will be a function of the type of material and mass of material...again, think bell. I can push the bell and deliver huge amounts of energy moving it back and forth...but it doesn't ring. Or I can strike the bell with far less energy...and it will ring. Even when striking it, I can have a lightweight clapper at very high speed, or a heavy clapper at much slower speed. In this analogy, voltage is speed and the amount of charge is weight.

Without a good sense of what the ferrite's resonant frequency actually is, it is somewhat difficult to gauge how fast the discharge needs to be at a minimum. In any case, I'm pretty sure faster will always be better than slower...which points to higher voltage being better. Whether 3kv ends up being the minimum threshold or not, I wouldn't know. I don't think we've tried anything below about 7kv. I am pretty certain that 100kv without enough total energy won't be enough, and there is some lower voltage threshold below which no amount of energy will be enough.

dllabarre

Quote from: dllabarre on October 08, 2010, 12:07:15 PM
I turn on LV and when I add the magnet near the end of the ferrite WITHOUT HV it just increases the magnetic strength of my ferrite core. 

When I turn on HV I hear a high pitch sound - not very loud but I can detect it.
I turn HV on/off and I can hear/not hear the high pitch sound.
I have to put my ear close to the coil and listen closely but it is there.

DonL

I got out the 10kV transformer and used it on the HV side.
It almost completely killed the magnetic field.
The compass just barely moves.
The spark gap was so loud I couldn't hear any change in pitch.

So someplace between 2kV and 10kV is a good number.
Cosmo said 4kV is enough and it appears he correct again!  8)


DonL