Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[exnihiloest]

Hi All,

After unsuccessful experiments with the kapagen, I decided to all forget, and to have a new look at Kapanadze's patents and search for unconventional features.
He has two patents: 1) WO2008103129A1 and 2) WO2008103130A1.
http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/Experiences/Kapanadze/

In the two patents, there are black boxes named "frequency stabilizer (adjuster)" and "filter". In the second one, there is also a mysterious "current amplifier". What does he mean?
The two patents are a bit different. If we compare them and presume that the primary circuit is about the same, we can suppose that the "frequency adjuster" 7 in the primary of patent 1) is the simple capacitor 5 in patent 2). Thus the primary should be a serial LC circuit, probably tuned to the "high frequency" which Kapanadze is always speaking about.

If LC is accorded for HF, the capacitance is low, and neither CC nor 50hz current can flow in the primary (nor any low frequency provided by the inverter when a battery is the primary source. In the next I will simplify by "50 hz"). This discards the kapagen. Now what is the role of a "filter" and on what frequency is it tuned? It can't be 50hz for the previous reason so we can hypothesize it is another LC circuit for reinforcing the resonance (because the first LC is a low Q circuit due to L coupled to the secondary coil which is loaded).

The HF current is provided by a spark which is powered from a 50hz current. Even if there is a capacitor and a diode, it is obvious that this HF current is amplitude modulated at 50hz.

Now what about the secondary. We have the same kind of circuits as at the primary, certainly accorded to the same frequency, possibly a bit detuned for adjusting the relative phase. It reminds me those used in radio for adjusting the impedance between a transmitter and an antenna. The "current amplifier" of patent 2) could be an adaptation of impedance with LC circuits.

But an important point is to be emphasized here: we are supposed to get a 50hz output current, at least to feed back the input with the same current as this one provided by the external supply when the device is not yet looped.

This point is rather obscure because Kapanadze confirms in the patent that all these circuits at the secondary are "high frequency".

But if there is not 50hz at the output, then the device could be looped with only HF and in this case, there would be no reason for feeding back the HF current before the HF generator as indicated in the patent, no reason to keep the HF generator in the looped circuit.

If there is also 50hz at the output, then as we have a 50hz modulated HF current, only a non linear component in the circuit can restore 50hz by demodulating the HF current. This couldn't be done with only air coils and pure capacitors. Therefore we should have ferrite cores with non linear characteristics due to their likely saturation, or a hidden diode in the "amplifier current", or even non linear capacitors. If there are ferrite cores, we don't know where they are. They can probably be the core of the two coupled coils, built from toroids like Baroutologos showed us, or else where in the coils of the "frequency adjusters" or "filters".

After these first thoughts, my first questions are:
- is there 50hz at the output?
- if there is, how a 50 hz signal could be maintained when the circuit is looped, while there is no circuit to stabilize a low frequency?
- if there is not, why to feed back the HF current for powering a HF generator that we don't need?

[baroutologos]

Nice thoughts exnihiloest,

But if i may say, most of the speak has to do with the technical details so as to convert HF to LF or vice versa, storing feeding etc part that is diffult to be made of course but with some persistance is possible.

what we are really missing here is the "magic".
What unknown principle by the modern science will allow such device to really work?
How the extra energy will come into the system and by what unknown methods ?

Unfortunately, So far not only we have not a straight answer, but not even a clue confirmed despite numerous forums, conversations and projects.

[Shokac]

I see that the load is connected in parallel with inputs 220V power supply. a current amplifier only provides additional output current in the whole circuit. (mybe in serial???)

Load should work without it turned on HV, but with much less force. If not, from where to obtain the 220V outlet?

SR_posts:

.....I want to mention that the "coil" off the voltage on the line, without converters, frequency 50Hz......

As current amplifier without DC battery

[poynt99]

Not sure where everyone is seeing 50 Hz and 220V AC? It is mentioned only once in the patent (perhaps a red herring?), but the patents clearly show the input and output is DC.

.99

[exnihiloest]

...
what we are really missing here is the "magic".
What unknown principle by the modern science will allow such device to really work?
How the extra energy will come into the system and by what unknown methods ?
...

I agree with you, Baroutologos, that these questions are the most interesting. Nevertheless they are relevant only if Kapanadze's device is proved to be OU.

So I prefer go forward step by step. To duplicate the device according to the information that we can get from the author, his patents, and our understanding (no magic here), seems to me a more efficient method than to base the research on the supposition that it works for sure, in accordance with hypothetical theories to be discovered and a-priori not even known by Kapanadze.

If we succeed, then these questions are to be answered.
If we fail, then it is time saving not to try answer them prematurely.