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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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e2matrix

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on October 22, 2011, 04:19:10 PM
Good idea, they would be available to everyone.
But unfortunately wouldn't work either without modification, because you only got the "hot" output available and in Stivep's group device you need the "cold" end to connect to the other transformer secondary.
If i remember correctly ignition coils have the primary and secondary connected, so it is kind of available, but not sure if it would work the same.

I think one of the inputs or ground is common and is the 'cold' side for the output.  Looking at the schematic now ( Thank you for the redraw!)  it does seem that a regular hot coil might not work.  There are two input points in the schematic and two output points but nothing connected as a common and as well some other connections that would probably make an ignition coil more difficult to wire up - at least with my knowledge I'd rather just be able to follow the schematic.  Since hot coils just have 3 connection points using one as common for both input and output I'll say my idea may not be the best unless you are comfortable with making your own circuit design mods to accommodate one.

Magluvin

Quote from: e2matrix on October 22, 2011, 04:12:34 PM
First I'll say I'm not back up to speed here on the latest developments.  But IF common flyback coils will be a problem because of internal diodes why not consider automotive hot coils or ignition coils?  Older cars have them separate without any other electronics in them and they put out easily 20KV from just 12 volts input and they are built to handle the constant arcing and sparking.  And they can handle higher current than most flybacks.  Easy to find in auto parts stores - I'm seeing around $25 new.  Easy to find in auto wrecking yards for probably $2 -$10.

This might be difficult. There are more than 2 coils needed on the transformer, other than the HV winding.

Maybe the can style ign coils can be taken apart and add extra coils as needed. Probably and oily mess at first.  ;]

Maybe leave the can off. A new larger one can be made if it is better. Oil for cooling, possible that it helps contain field, helps induction?  ;]

E core ign coils, usually have plastic that impedes getting any more wire in there.

Being that these separate windings are all in series(in the schem shown), this is a necessary part of the circuit for replication.


Mags

TheCell

@energia9
Zilano uses a diode after the NST, so I think the output is not rectified.

Your circuit seems right to me , except the driver stage.
I think there is no voltage amplification, only current amplification needed.
I would try one of these examples:
http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.arcor.de%2Fd.mietke%2Fanalog%2Fab_verst.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

Chose one of the two examples; the left one, if distortion does not matter and the right one if linearity is required. I think they should work both in the 40 kHz range.

IMHO , if the caduceus coil provides a gain in this setup , this gain should remain also if you use a nst or a flyback without resonance condition.

@Goat : the shortcut

Magluvin

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on October 22, 2011, 04:19:10 PM
Good idea, they would be available to everyone.
But unfortunately wouldn't work either without modification, because you only got the "hot" output available and in Stivep's group device you need the "cold" end to connect to the other transformer secondary.
If i remember correctly ignition coils have the primary and secondary connected, so it is kind of available, but not sure if it would work the same if you can put that thing into resonance in the same way.


Hey, yes, being that the hv coil in the ign coil does have the one end connected to the primary(series), then maybe with experimentation, a cap can be put across the primary to closely resemble the flyback shown.  Except it would have to be started electrically unless another coil is added inside the can for that.  Things are possible.    ;]

Mags

e2matrix

Having said that I'm not lacking flybacks and recently found this big one from a 60" Sony big screen projection TV I scrapped out.  My cat wants to know what the second part of this flyback is as it seems to have 2 parts to it.  The second part has two small wires going into the epoxy filled box and two high voltage wires coming out of it.  If you can tell me what that part is I'll pass it along to my cat :)