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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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grizli

Quote from: microcontroller on November 04, 2011, 02:08:43 PM
I would never buy that one it's crap it only goes up to 2Mhz is way too expensive and what grizly said.
You better take one DDS with the AD chip those go up to 60Mhz and you can make them dance.

Like these http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/498580207-EMS-Freeshipping-3pcs-lot-F209-AD9851-DDS-Signal-Generator-50MHz-DDS-source-SCM-DDS-module-wholesalers.html

OR take the much cheaper Arduino plug in board  :) smarties.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/5MHz-Signal-Generator-Counter-DDS-Function-Sweep-/260834008240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbaeb1cb0


This is better, cheaper and you dont have to trouble about programming , u here have lcd display. etc

grizli

Quote from: bolt on November 04, 2011, 04:04:40 PM
a CD4046B  Phase Locked Loop will run up to 1.4 Mhz and cost about $1.20 that is my signal generator:) Can use prescaler to lock sync to 50Hz or thereabouts is NOT critical. Only the phase between the two signals are important once the critical sub harmonic NMR frequency around 380Khz has been found. A  square or pulse wave will suffice as we need to hit higher harmonics.

I think NE564 is better, but  principle is the same

NE564 and CD4046 can tune to voltage feedback, it is posible to use them to get maximum output voltage: they will very frequncy automaticly. closed loop pll


http://www.google.hr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ne564%2Btesla&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fusers.skynet.be%2FBillsPage%2FPLLTesla%2FPLLTesla.pdf&ei=QXi0ToS2OIPt-gbowbHQCQ&usg=AFQjCNE_rVfVOGFgPoREC6XDfDAJPvY0rw&sig2=mmxI4uyo0Amb_KMOSMN8Qg

This is NE564 tesla coil caluculation guide

verpies

Quote from: grizli on November 04, 2011, 07:41:10 PM
NE564 and CD4046 can tune to voltage feedback, it is possible to use them to get maximum output voltage: they will vary frequency automatically. A closed loop PLL

I think the NE564 or CD4046 and some binary dividers such as CD4040, together with fast Power MOSFET transistors for the rectangular waveform output stages, is a cheap and an excellent idea for signal generators/oscillators. 

The only drawback of the above solution is that such signal generator requires more skills to build and use, compared to prebuilt signal generators with knobs and digital displays. This might be a serious obstacle for less skilled replicators.

However before we start generating signals by any method, we first must know which frequency is derived from which and what are the frequency ratios and phase relationships between them, if any !

From the inventor's descriptions so far, we can be reasonably sure that:
LF ~ 50Hz
HF/LF = a natural number
...or in other words LF is a subharmonic of HF

...and maybe we can also write that:
The 1 turn winding made out of the Braid (or Copper Tape) over 1/2 of the ferrite core's circumference, has certain RLC Resonance Frequency (a.k.a. Braid Ringing Frequency)  (BRF).
This BRF frequency is specific to the properties of the ferrite core as well as the air-gaps in the magnetic circuit (reluctance) and is influenced by the mutual inductance of all of the windings wound on that core as well as their inter-winding capacitance and any deliberately added capacitances, temperature and load.

...so maybe we can also state that:
BRF / HF  = a natural number, too.

In other words: HF must be a subharmonic of BRF.
...or in yet other words: BRF must be a natural multiple of HF.

Although we can reasonably guess the frequency relationships between the BRF, HF and LF, we are still left in the dark about their phase relationships  >:(

Also, we know nothing about the properties of the ferrite.
We don't know its precise dimensions,
- nor coercivity
- nor remanence
- nor BH curve
- nor permeability curve
- nor J/kg core loss
- nor frequency response
etc... 

We don't even know what size of CRT that ferrite core came off of :/

T-1000

Quote from: verpies on November 04, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
We don't even know what size of CRT that ferrite core came off of :/

It was used for TV display 61ЛКЗЦ - http://www.super-phantom.ru/arh/150/6/

Unfortunately, those are 25+ years old and no datasheets are widely available...

P.S> 61ЛКЗЦ = 61cm in diameter, 4:3 display with angle from cathode of 90 degrees. (other versions had 110^)