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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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verpies

Quote from: baroutologos on November 17, 2011, 04:06:28 PM
Try connecting FG leads at mains. Will they be burned? :D

~1kV will very likely damage the outputs of the signal generators, unless their engineers/creators protected its outputs with e.g. varistors or zener diodes.

...but wait a minute, are you sure the ~1kV appears at the winding that is driven by the signal generator? 
Maybe ~1kV appears only at the output of the secondary 150t bifilar winding?   ...and aren't they using HV high-attenuation scope probes ?

That's why I keep asking for those captions at the bottom of the inventor's videos. 
If those captions were there, we would know at all times what is measured and what winding is connected to what ?

baroutologos

Quote from: verpies on November 17, 2011, 06:14:02 PM
~1kV will very likely damage the outputs of the signal generators, unless their engineers/creators protected its outputs with e.g. varistors or zener diodes.

Of course one can do many things to protect a circuitry by HV at low frequency as correctly you said (zeners, varistors or even blocking capacitors of very small capacitance -high pass-)
Why no mention it so far?

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...but wait a minute, are you sure the ~1kV appears at the winding that is driven by the signal generator? 
Maybe ~1kV appears only at the output of the secondary 150t bifilar winding?   ...and aren't they using HV high-attenuation scope probes ?

Yes i am sure.  In the second "part" of the english translated video, at 42:00 - 44:00 when getting nice sine resonance at biffilar it goes (as Wesley descibes about the usage of attenuation probe 1:1000) above 6 Kv (biffilar) at 1.1 MHz. I can accept that.

At the end of video with the use of mains transformer for getting thse 50 Hz at 15 turns primary, @ 1:31:00 the biffilar forms some 10 Kv if i get it right.
Since all have been wound on same core, the 50 turns and the 15 turns should share more or less a 50/150 and 15/150 voltage ratio of those huge Kvs. Not to mention the examined biffilar coil set is nowhere near 150 turns.
No?

verpies

Quote from: baroutologos on November 17, 2011, 06:38:15 PM
Since all have been wound on same core, the 50 turns and the 15 turns should share more or less a 50/150 and 15/150 voltage ratio of those huge Kvs. Not to mention the examined biffilar coil set is nowhere near 150 turns.
No?

Yes, in a conventional transformer the voltage in the secondary is related to the voltage in the primary by the turns ratio, and this relation is bidirectional.
According to this, 10kV in a 21turn secondary would mean more than 7kV in the 15turn primary. I doubt a SG's output would survive that... unfortunately I don't think that anybody stuck an oscilloscope probe directly to the output of the SG to confirm the existence of high voltages, when it was happening.

However this is not a conventional transformer, because there is large leakage inductance due to the air gaps and that breaks the turn-ratio rule. Also the capacitances forming loosely coupled LC oscillators have large degrees of freedom, thus large pumped resonance amplitudes can develop there.  This is in addition to the possibly undiscovered effects happening in the material of the core due to the rotating magnetic fields and orthogonal HV E-fields.

Thus it is conceivable that in this device the turns-ratio rule has been broken and is no longer bidirectional.

jbignes5




You are absolutely right! It is not Bi-directional anymore because the response from the environment is being sucked into the Bifilar wind. I don't think Tesla got that far in his experiments. He was of the thinking that for each positive there is an equal response to that positive. But I think it is all positive just of differing levels of positives. The Tesla switch proves that you can run things from 2+'s as long as there is a conduction path in common and a one way flow. In this case the path in mass is the environment we are immersed in. The one way flow is the bifilar coil, it harvests both ends of the spectrum into one direction we choose.


Now you can never go beyond what the matter can tolerate, this thing will heat up as has been shown in the videos. The report of the Pierce Arrow experiment made by Tesla in NY state should have been proof enough. Most good accounts of the event go into detail how the motor needed a special fan on the front to improve the air flow for cooling. Unfortunately this car was never found or if it was no one wanted it to be found and got rid of it. The only thing that Tesla removed was the tubes after the Test. He parked the vehicle in a barn and grab the tubes and walked away.


This was the test of the patent that he revisited because no one wanted his wireless energy. After all He knew Industrial america wouldn't go for the free version.

baroutologos

Quote from: verpies on November 17, 2011, 07:52:03 PM
Yes, in a conventional transformer the voltage ...
Hello Verpie, i do not really want to push you against the wall since you are a charming member of this forum. Maybe what you say is not impossible rather than impropable.

i would wait for an asnwer from the STAAR team with measurments etc. After all, time reveals everything :)