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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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znel

Quote from: baroutologos on December 17, 2011, 07:15:02 AM
Anyway, to whom it may concern :) ...

In continuation to this observation, http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg307852/#msg307852 i tried to mentaly understand what is going on and how kacher works in this way.
The idea struck me and i assemble a setup in order to check the concept. In contrast to a typical kacher that runs to its main LC component (even though they have been observations that is not always so) and corresponds to a general working principle as in figure 1, in my case, by enforcing a voltage node at the top (while oscillation has been started and carefully so as not to be extinguished) the mode of operation becomes as that in fig 2.

Clearly resembles as some Tesla's odd (at first glance) coils :) . Current oscillates from two opposite ends to middle with different directions in the same time, effectively "seperating" the coil to 2 smaller ones, that their stray capacitance is charged by both the ways inrusing current. Standing wave normaly is formulated at the center (air core) while can be skewed by a ferrite addition.
So self explaining photos are added... perhaps you find it interesting :)

ps: o-scopes are 0.2us / div & 1 v (resistors 10-11 ohms each)

You can stay in resonance and shift the node where ever you want it depending on what you expect from the coil or trying to accomplish.   Wind the coil longer to move the HV point to several turns below the top of the coil and tune to it to achieve resonance at that point.    The kacher seems to lock on to one of the higher harmonics but I've seen some oddities with them where one day it would run at one frequency and another day it would lock to another harmonic quite a strange circuit.   I've also found various ways to force it to different harmonics using other coils in proximity.   Driving the Meyl/jackson towers with a katcher circuit one tower will run at a lower harmonic and the other will run at 2 times that frequency - both towers being identical.   

Once again, does the kacher excite the coil to a positive HV or negative?   Did the tesla coil create a pos HV or negative?   Do the streamers start from the coil or are they drawn into the coil?  I always took for granted that it was a pos HV at the end of the coil until I started studying lasersabre's Joule ringer.   I started questioning what was actually taking place.    Look at the flash circuit very closely, which is a kacher type circuit in production today and is what the joule ringer was originally modeled around shown below...  Take a close look at it..  notice how it's charging the HV cap.

I went through a number of experiments trying to answer the numerous questions I had concerning this.   If you look at this video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4l1IJJgjNc&list=UUXep7p9Aj0clGmPni7yxV2w&index=5&feature=plcp
  You'll see the discharge streamer starting in the ground wire before it makes a connection to the globe.   This is a basic tesla arrangement with 39 turns on the secondary and 3 turns on the primary.   I felt that knowing the directionality of the coils would help determine how you could better use the energy.    Keep in mind the kacher meets the criteria of a unidirectional flow through the primary which tesla was extremely intrigued with.    The secondary will still ring but the dominating force is unidirectional.

One of the reasons I joined in on this group was because of the work that T1000's group was doing.   Their original schematic was extremely close to one I've been working on for over a year now although a completely different system than mine, it accomplishes the same thing.  It intrigued me that they were following a similar path.     All should take a close look at it and examine what their attempting to accomplish with the circuit as it can apply to many different circuits in many ways.   

Again I'll bring up the analogy of the battery with an antenna having a diode on the positive side and connecting a HV neg coil to the neg side of the battery... will it charge the battery?   Will it charge a cap?   If you connect an earth ground to a coil of HV neg dominance what happens?  Does the ground then become the source?   If we are creating a "pump" what are we pumping?

Consider for a moment what happens when you charge a cap to say 5kv.   Say a .5uf cap so it's not lethal - well for the most part not lethal but could be dependent on where the discharge passed through your body.   You can drain it slowly using energy over time or blast it through a coil in a nanosecond.    The second method yields an "activity" greater than you can imagine.   It only takes a few watts to charge it but what is the transformation taking place of setting it off like a firecracker?   The formula V(C/L)^2 = amperage into the inductor.... so lets look at this with the example above....   5000 volts * ( .5uf/14uh )^.5 = 944 amps.      Voltage is reduced by 90% so we only have around 500 volts flowing in the coil now but at 944 amps.   This transformation equates to 472,000 watts of instantaneous energy.   Not overunity - we are simply using the energy in a different time frame.   What would happen if you dumped this same cap and energy into a 2uh single turn inductor?

Lots of questions, lots of experiments, so little time......

e2matrix

Wesley,  Don't drive yourself into the ground over any of this.  Take it easy and have fun with it.  There are always going to be some pushy people, some jerks, some misunderstandings due to language and some people with less than great social interaction skills.  And of course there is a few of the worst kind that are here only to disrupt progress in any way they can.  I'm not pointing any fingers but it's always been this way on anything that's hot and you just need to either make yourself one big IGNORE button to push or get thick skin for such nonsense.   Cheers and have a Happy Holidays.

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@stivep

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6. I'm not a  wealthy man I'm constantly investing ads much as I can to DELIVER
7.I will not any longer spend 16 hours a day just to respond to questions and comments or fight with anyone.
8.All I have is my wife and my lab that makes me happy rest of it is just simple life necessities.
9. I do not drink , no entertainment  , no TV, no restaurants, no fun of any typical nature, no society life and no waste of my time on BS. I woke up and start my science with the coup of coffe, That is how it goes.,
"TK"technology  is my biggest and only sacrifice that consumes all of my resources.

This is the reality of our everyday present existence. I am the same. Besides working 3-4 days at office, other days I work from home but put most time on OU projects till 2-3 am. One cannot always foresee the hindrances in our taken path. Ours is purely technical but the will is always there to push us forward. So keep on with the gang and we will try our best to do our own bit.

@all

Below is the images of my new FBT  model FLY-295 of unkown manufacturer and I have found nothing on the net about this FBT.

The FBT has one primary on the bottom core side and on the Top there is HV positive output plus 5 wires (4 yellow 1 blue) that go to this isolated connection plate.

The primary wire is very thin and I am worried that it will not be able to take the pounding I am about to give it, so I am wondering if it is best to simply either remove this primary and wind two 5-6 turns primary of heavier wire, or just wind the two 5-6 turns over the existing primary to preserve it as is. Any ideas.

The final image is of the connection plate and I have measured resistance and inductance for each inter-coil connection. So if anyone knows of this FBT and may have some good insight on how to best connect it, please let me know.

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wattsup

@all

I forgot to post this pdf file on flybacks. It is 80% to technical for me but I am sure it will have some good information for the better EEers.

Located here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Tariel-Kapanadze/Wessley-WNY-Group/flyback-transformer/
Click on the 0071621121_ar007.pdf file.

It is too big to post here directly.

wattsup

Kator01

Hi Znel,

QuoteDriving the Meyl/jackson towers with a katcher circuit one tower will run at a lower harmonic and the other will run at 2 times that frequency - both towers being identical.   

No wonder that you had this frequnecy-phaenomenon

I know this Meyl-Setup. Actually I have build this "tranmitter" myself and tested it with a High-Frequnecy engineer.
Now all claims Meyl made about velocity beyond c are not true. His setup is a complex hf-bandfilter with two resonance-points because of stronger coupling ( 2.5) of the two tanks. Look at the light blue resonance-spectrum. Here you see the two resonace points.
It seems the Kacher itself shows some similar features of a bandfilter. This could be an endless story, so better have a controlled tesla-coil system like it is shown here in the link provided earlier by some user here in Volume 17 Isue 2, page 12-15:
http://www.teslauniverse.com/

Regards
kator