Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[Hope]

I don't know exactly what you mean by "building".  If it means a positive first derivative of the envelope, then I agree that both of these waveforms are "building".
If you are writing that the second derivatives of these envelopes are both positive, then I disagree.

I cannot show you my waveforms. I am not building the Kacher device because I do not see anything unusual about it.  There are no indications of unusual I/O power ratios nor unusual waveforms, thus I would consider building it, a waste of my time and my resources (but I still can discuss it and help others with it, e.g. wattsup & an oscillator circuit).

There is nothing unusual about an increasing amplitude of an LC or traveling-wave oscillator which is pumped up from an external energy source. (manifested as a wine-glass shape envelope). 
However the SAAAR team's trumpet shaped envelope is very unusual, because the positive second derivative means that the energy increase is not decaying (or approaching a limit) as with the Kacher device and its wine-shaped envelope.

The above is the most significant difference between these waveforms, but not the only one (e.g. see their duty cycle of quiescent periods).

In my post the issue was not "how the waveform was made" but what energy characteristics it represents.

This is an "overunity" forum and the first step in analyzing any device here, should be measuring it OU potential.
Without a self-runner and without valid power/energy measurements, there is no OU.

I agree with your comment.   
Verps can you think of a way to SCAN the area around a device in real time and display both the thermo and magnetic streams?

We can learn interactions much quicker if we can "sense" them in real time and "play" with them.

[verpies]

That would be hard, because the electric, magnetic forces would need to be visualized simultaneously in 3D.
I will think about it... maybe ferrofluid and styrofoam balls, or spirally rotating H-field and E-filed sensors with LEDs next to them to leave a visible trail.... difficult stuff

[jbignes5]

@CollapsingfieldI am sorry for having misquoted you. Thank you for correcting that.
Yet, would it be fair to say, that only the voltage is supplied by the power source  but the current in the primary is not drawn from the power source because this current is created in the spark? Is it the correct understanding, that this current is supplied by the broken down dielectric medium, i.e. it comes from the ionized air, i.e. from the plasma, i.e. from a discharge of the air/gas?

Wow, How did I miss this. Yeah I think the design of the catcher needs a spark gap for sure. Plasma is a very energetic power source and magnetic medium. It could be what that magical blue stuff is when people touch the wires. This stuff goes trough the insulation very easily and is the energy we want to attract. Now how do we convert that plasma back into real energy? By giving it s direction of flow around another coil like someone mentioned. You have to step it down and convert it to another vortex. This vortex will be heavy with magnetic field.


So one vortex creates the flow and the other vortex receives the flow plus any additional fields it drags in.


Using the catcher coils in a vertical fashion allows you to use the Earths natural connections to the environment. Since we can conclude this from simple observation, all matter is radiant, we must understand that there is a polarized network around our planet. Learn to hook to that network and you could get way more then we need. We can also devise that gravity is a showing of a force going into our planet. I am under the impression that there is a subtle flow that effects matter on an individual atom basis twords a central point in our planet. It is what allows our atmosphere to form and exhibit layers. What ever this energy is we have a hard time detecting it. But then again we were never looking for it.


So in remembering the fields I showed  under the plasma experiments we can see through intensified energy the normal fields present. Someone should do this for the catcher setup and see what we are dealing with these type of coils. The ones I showed were of magnets and not coils.

[wattsup]

@verpies

Sorry to bother you but regarding the pulsing circuit, after lengthy trials to find it locally with no luck, I finally ordered the TPS2833 from DigiKey, the only place that had them. They are surface mount type so I found these small adapter circuit boards from Futurlec. I also ordered the HV caps plus some IRF7307 mosfet drivers to also try out the pulsing method used by a former member @otto.

@all

Also, I know I am a major pain in the ass with requests for testing but has anyone tried putting an extra primary in series with the pancake coil as I had mentioned twice before. Experimentation is a process in which when trying one thing, the results or lack of result will lead you to other side tests. The test I am trying to ask to try is to see if there is  way to increase output by modifying how the pancake coil receives its pulses.

Also, I am curious if anyone with a Kacher device can simply take some iron bailing wire that is plastic insulated and just cut them to the length, bundle them up and place them inside the copper pipe, what kind of effect they will have. I think the iron wire will work better then the ferrites since that copper pipe is obviously being used as a floating ground.

wattsup

[jbignes5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grPo81fBrA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afQW8FT02DM&list=UUZFlznLV3IyePfbc2TfDetA&index=138&feature=plpp_video


Come on people! See that there is a duality to the fields. Both left and right turns for each pole. It is also in motion and is not a static field! We should be able to design a coil to pickup this magnet spin and use that for power. A magnet is really the free energy source now. It has a spinning  motion in a permanent way especially when you buck the fields together.

We might be able to harvest both spins of one magnet equally through bifilar pickup coils. Hey if plasma is soo magnetic just putting a bifilar coil around the glass he had there should generate a current right that is non reflecting?

Well it might be this field needs to be moved for it to interact the way we would like. But if this stuff is like a fluid then we need to know how to shape it's field and the relation to the spin of those fields and the flows. It seems the screw like structure of the electric field draws in environmental magnetic lines. It borrows this from the environment and is quite virtual in the sense of sharing with the environment.
We must maintain the pressure as evident by the leaking wires. I really believe static shielding would fix this effect and pressurize the mechanism.