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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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stivep

Quote from: abc on February 12, 2012, 11:32:31 PM
I do not care what's your opinion about my mind, at least I'm not sick ;D
You do not know nothing about patenting whatsoever.
If somebody will make it working, he will change ONE little thing to make it a new, and it will be patented as a new approach.
Block-diagram (TK) is not subject for patenting, it must be shown novelty in patent application, and if it there you'll get your patent even similar devices already exist.
So it's not TK, or you, or poor guy from your next door, it's who makes it doable, repeatable, scaleable; look at the perfect example  -  A.Rossi.
So long, world's savior, you have a long journey before you...for recovery.


No Sir You do not know about patenting at all . I have got  plenty of work with them.I was closely working with number of government institutions including NASA and Dep of Defense in my life time.. I spoken with few professional patent attorneys.
Please read  Patent application of TK.
Please consult it with professionals.
It is not block diagram that is most important  but Patent claims.


Patent claims are the part of a patent or patent application that defines the scope of protection granted by the patent.


TK has based on his patent application priority not only to his invention but to any invention of any kind falling to the description of his   Patent claims after date of filing.That should be counted from hour and minute of him sending his patent application to Patent
Office.
That stays about any device  described above to be non patent able  even after TK death.
Ever...
After his death his family has rights to demand patent till the period of time patent should be valid if it was issued.(approx 20 years).If evidence was to be ever presented.

He does not have patent as no patent office is issuing patent for group of perpetual motion devices. So as long as there will be no significant evidence that his device/ or any other device within brackets of his claims works as desired./ he will not be granted patent.
As soon as any  body/entity show it working he will be issued patent by default.
After approximate two years from date  of submitting his application he should get denial
At that point there is requirement to resubmit papers and/or go to court.
That may delay him  with his patent  for approx.another 2 years.
But till now he did not received denial.
So  that might take  about 3-12 months to give him patent after evidence is  provided that his device work
So if we like it or do not it does not make any impact on TK patent rights


no improvement to the patent is allowed to be manufactured if it is utilizing rights of primary patent holder without his consent and/or approval nor licencing agreement.
If any improvement was presented, manufactured and/or published and/or disclosed or claimed by any other party apart of inventor including his friends, family than this improvement is invalidated for the purpose of patent proceeding
If any part of improvement was.... ( as above) than  this improvement is invalidated for the purpose of patent proceeding )
If any part of improvement was similar to any other concept ever discussed  in its form matching
improvement patent application than  this improvement is invalidated for the purpose of patent proceeding .




 
TK patent is international class of patent.



You are  just  small time ignorant with the big mouth hiding and baiting. That is all.
What did you contribute to this forum sir..


Wesley
If you continue to provoke me I will gently ask for you to be removed form this forum






 

Qwert

@abc.
I guess, it would be rather hard to convince the Patent Office authorities to get a patent for an Open Source device with only ONE LITTLE THING changed. It must be a thing, which pretty significantly IMPROVES its function. Furthermore, I would think at least twice before I would attempt to patent such way, taking under consideration a fact that patenting process is rather expensive affair; yet another problem is to compete with a device already existing and accessible for free (even when that free one will be less functional).

xenomorphlabs

I am just trying to understand, no motive whatsoever to critize/flame anything that has been posted here.
The part that i do not understand about TK's actions is that considering the following:

QuoteAs soon as any  body/entity show it working he will be issued patent by default.

All he would have to do then is to present the working device to the patent office and get the patent granted
which would put him into the position to be able to mass produce the device and generate revenue which seems
to be his priority.
What exactly keeps him from doing that?



cosmoLV

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on February 12, 2012, 02:21:12 PM
TK even stated that you dont need any ground at all. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1q41KaTwZA&feature=channel_video_title

It needs a ground! Maybe bad translation, but ground are not needed starting from 50 Kv and UP, but device are complex (actually not device, but schematics and control system)
Keep your chakras opened :)

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: cosmoLV on February 13, 2012, 02:38:04 AM
It needs a ground! Maybe bad translation, but ground are not needed starting from 50 Kv and UP, but device are complex (actually not device, but schematics and control system)

Well it is kind of funny if someone tells you something is not needed, yet in nearly every presentation there is
significant time being spent on focusing the camera exactly on that aspect which supposedly is not needed at all.
He DOES however say it. Up to everybody what to make out of it .... ;)

Quote from: John M on February 12, 2012, 04:30:34 PM

To me it sounded like he said "grant is not needed". I tried to determine the context it was said in but could not for sure. More than likely he said ground was not needed, but was that just for lower power or even high power.

John

In the skype conversation TK clearly uses the term земля which means ground. Wesley might have pronounced it slightly more sounding like "grant",
but what counts is what TK said.