Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Khwartz
can you look at your PM ?

[Hoppy]

@ALL


If this was a trick, then TK still had to find a simple method to either make the device to produce.......

a) a floating secondary hot line that requires a mains neutral or good Earth ground, or,
b) a floating secondary neutral line that requires a mains hot. Choice B would imply that his ground was hot spiked by a third party during the demo. Not cool but hey.

But, technically, both of these are impossible to do using the standard methods as I have tried them in many ways .

So we keep plugging away at it. hehehe

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I have repeatedly asked A.King how he thinks the grid mains is brought into the Aqua2 fish tank. He eventually replied by insisting that TK only needs the grid mains to start his device. From then on it loops back and self-runs. If the braided tube carries no hidden wires and no other wires enter the tank, then logic indicates that the complete power source is contained within the tank (assuming an inductive transfer of power from hidden coils outside the tank are not used). For the electric heater to be consuming around 1KW - 2KW, both a neutral and live conductor would be needed if the power source was external to the tank. If the braided conductor was carrying mains neutral, then there must also be another visibly hidden conductor somewhere bringing in mains live. If you can envisage one power carrying conductor entering the tank by means of the braided wire, why not also another hidden conductor, either inside the braid or entering somewhere else? If the power source is contained completely within the tank, then there is no need for any source of power externally, unless its just to boost the internal supply.

Hoppy

[verpies]

@verpies or anyone
Can you or other please, please provide some ideas on how to use a zener diode for pulsing. The way I understand it in my low EE perspective is zeners are only used to dump any over voltages to ground. Could that be a link between the zener and TKs need for a good ground wire. If a zener is used on an AC line, are there two types available one to discharge the positive peak and another to discharge the negative peak.

Some diodes can generate nanosecond or even picosecond pulses (even in 100kW range), when driven in a very specific manner.   See this.
Old diodes with diffuse PN junction work much better than Zener or Shottky diodes.

[verpies]

If the braided conductor was carrying mains neutral, then there must also be another visibly hidden conductor somewhere bringing in mains live.

No - the braid can carry both ("live" and "neutral"). The braid is composed of many wires (conductors). Those wires can be enameled and isolated from each other. Like this.
The enamel is transparent and hard to notice and it can withstand 3000V on a standard magnet wire.

[wattsup]

@ wattsup

I have repeatedly asked A.King how he thinks the grid mains is brought into the Aqua2 fish tank. He eventually replied by insisting that TK only needs the grid mains to start his device. From then on it loops back and self-runs. If the braided tube carries no hidden wires and no other wires enter the tank, then logic indicates that the complete power source is contained within the tank (assuming an inductive transfer of power from hidden coils outside the tank are not used). For the electric heater to be consuming around 1KW - 2KW, both a neutral and live conductor would be needed if the power source was external to the tank. If the braided conductor was carrying mains neutral, then there must also be another visibly hidden conductor somewhere bringing in mains live. If you can envisage one power carrying conductor entering the tank by means of the braided wire, why not also another hidden conductor, either inside the braid or entering somewhere else? If the power source is contained completely within the tank, then there is no need for any source of power externally, unless its just to boost the internal supply.
Hoppy

@Happy

Thanks for your response. You see that logic does not hold up when you put it beside the Green Box device where TK removed the wire to the ground pipe and connected the wire going to the radiator. With the rad the device still started but the output was very low. This confirms he needs a constant neutral or very well grounded source by having tried that myself, I would confirm more the requirement of a real neutral connected to the AC mains and not a grounded rod or object.

Also if you consider the Aq2 device ground was only a damn bolt in a block of cement that would have been a worst ground source then having the buried radiator, that bolt must have a wire connected on the other side under the cement block and going somewhere to a real AC neutral, so this confirm more the choice A above. I am not saying this takes away from the novelty but it puts the effect to be more dependent on an outside influence then they are showing.

We should not confuse using an isolated Earth ground like a grounding rod or radiator with the use of the AC mains neutral. The former will be resistance dependent while the later has no resistance at all or very little and is exactly what TK would require to run that heater.

Just the fact that it still worked with the radiator, even at a lower output power level is extreme because all he has to do is parallel several devices to accumulate more power.

@TK

Thanks for your reply. I get it.

@verpies

No - the braid can carry both ("live" and "neutral"). The braid is composed of many wires (conductors). Those wires can be enameled and isolated from each other. Like this.
The enamel is transparent and hard to notice and it can withstand 3000V on a standard magnet wire.

Yes but in the Green Box video there is only one wire clearly going to the ground pipe. And in the Aq2 there is only one braiding that is bolted to the cement block and no evidence of anything being split into two separate conducting lines. What is disconcerting is that they show the bolt on the cement block and want us to think that braided shield wire stops there.

In that video, when the guy goes to the outside door that is to his left, there is a door in front of him that is closed but we can see a wire on the floor coming from that room and going under the carpet. That is not good to see. They could have passed that wire to the outside underground and to the ground bolt without any problems.

I am amazed that the a.king21 and Wesley group videos were not more complete with more steady camera works, more looking all over the device, more looking at that ground wire and any other peripheral signs including some power measurements, etc. In the a.king21 case, seems to me if you are paying for a demo, you are also paying for the right to make your measurements as you see fit, otherwise you are at the mercy of the ones doing the demo and creating all their distractions. In the case of the previous paragraph of that mystery wire, why did the group not investigate that wire to make sure where it originated and where it is going. You have to look at everything and not be intimidated. Seems to me TK had complete control at all times.

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