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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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wattsup

Quote from: verpies on December 25, 2012, 02:02:49 PM
Power is proportional to the duty cycle, not the frequency.  10Hz waveform will deliver the same power to the filament as the same waveform at 50Hz.
The 1sec. integration time provided by the heater's filament, will prevent any flicker above 1Hz.
Charging capacitor by the hidden wire does not prevent heating of that wire.

With, this explanation you just had outdone yourself.  It makes little sense and is scientifically incorrect.

The Ockham's Razor principle points in the direction of high voltage in the hidden wire.  This is easy to generate with a step-up transformer.

I agree @verpies, this is why I said someone here will be able to put it more in context. This does not change the fact that the heating element provides TK the leeway required to obtain his visual effect. I knew I mixed up something in there but wanted to at least get the base method across to the guys. Yes step-up is required and very easy to do and TK did not have to transfer a full 1500 watts to obtain his visual effect. Thanks for your clarification.

What are your thoughts about the Mustafa circuit. I tried it but not even a nudge on the secondary. Must be because of they way the C1 capacitor is placed.

wattsup


a.king21

In reply to the bollox postings by some members.
If you were putting mains into the aq2 via the braid you would be brain dead to put it next to a
water source. (drain)
TK's patent CLEARLY shows the earth connected to the output load.
Therefore wattsup's analysis that the earth braid  goes to a live wire is absolutely correct and
CONFIRMS TK's patent.
The heater was 2 kwatts.
The output was verified by the team members there as they could feel the intense heat.
Posters should understand Tesla's later electricity (which is different from what is in the books) before posting.
TK CLEARLY shows in his patent that he is using Tesla's switching methods, which Tesla sometimes calls
a circuit controller.
I suggest that contributors analyse TK's patent before commenting irrationally.
TK put the output into a heater because I asked him to. I wanted to ensure that the
output was real, as lights can be faked. Heat can not.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: verpies on December 25, 2012, 02:02:49 PM
The Ockham's Razor principle points in the direction of high voltage in the hidden wire.  This is easy to generate with a step-up transformer.
Except that a hidden high voltage wire needs to be thick because of the thick insulation and a hidden low voltage wire needs to be thick because of the high current which must go through the wire.

Quote from: wattsup on December 25, 2012, 11:12:27 AM
@Zeitmaschine and @cheappower2012

Let me just say that SM also F'd all his devices. If you want me to expand on this just ask, but realize that both TK and SM devices are a total waste of time.
I would see this the other way round. It looks to me as if wattsup is on the payroll of the oil industry and this thread is very close to the solution - much too close in fact. Because what else could be the reason for one to over and over repeat that something is a proven fake without any real evidence but assumptions based on blurry images and in doing so risking his reputation? If one thinks TK is completely fake then why not just leaving this forum silently?

Sorry, if this sounds harsh, but to me it comes across this way.

So here comes one more great theory of mine (to waste the time): When a coil is exposed to an alternating magnetic field, then a voltage is induced in this coil. That is common knowledge. But why is that so? Let's say the magnetic field is a property of the aether. Hence the aether within the coil influences the inductance of the coil. If the aether (the magnetic field) oscillates then the inductance of the coil oscillates as well and therefore the rapid change of the coil's inductance generates a voltage in that coil. When a coil has an iron core, then this iron core does not influence the wire of the coil directly (how should it?) but it influences the aether within the coil and therefore the influenced aether changes the inductance of the coil indirectly.

Correct me someone if I'm wrong so far. But then explain how a magnetic field can generate a voltage in the non-magnetic wire of a coil.

Now what would happen if the aether were in rest (no magnetic oscillations) but the coil would change its inductance by itself rapidly? A coil connected to a capacitor is called a LC circuit. This LC circuit resonates at a certain frequency. What happens when this coil is hit by an alternating magnetic field with the resonance frequency of the LC circuit? The circuit resonates and generates an amplified current in it, like a crystal radio which most likely gives more power out than it receives from the transmitter (as discussed a few hundred pages ago :) ). Now is this so because the magnetic field of the transmitter changes the coil's inductance and the changing inductance of the coil in turn generates an additional current in the coil which exceeds the current generated directly from the transmitter's magnetic field?

If so, then what could happen, when a coil of an LC circuit changes its inductance by connecting and disconnecting a second coil in parallel at the resonance frequency of the circuit? Could this circuit tap the aether in order to generate an additional current?

That's just my two cents for today.

wattsup

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on December 25, 2012, 04:05:07 PM
I would see this the other way round. It looks to me as if wattsup is on the payroll of the oil industry and this thread is very close to the solution - much too close in fact.

Step up voltage means what to you, 1 million volts? Man we are talking step-up by 2, 3 or 4, not by 100. No special wire is required for that. Actually, the exact thinner wire is required.

You seem to equate very heavily that if this or that person is faking OU, then OU does not exist. You have to absolutely believe that someone else has achieved OU before you can believe it is possible. Why? Why can't you just believe that OU is possible. Possible regardless if one guy or another guy winds up faking it. Why should the veracity of OU rest on any one persons shoulders. Did I say OU is impossible? No I did not. I know deep down to my bones that OU is possible and have always believed and worked towards that. Just because I don't have OU yet, it does not mean it does not exist. It also does not mean guys like SM or TK have to be real for me to discover it for myself. They can be fakes while we are the real guys doing the real works to discover it. That's what doing better means.

You are so wrong but no problem man. If this is what you really think then I will leave this thread and sorry for the trouble. So good luck with your TK and SM quest.

So last message goes to....

@a.king21

I know what you are saying and realize that the heat cannot be faked but do you actually know how much heat a 2000 watts heater will produce when connected straight to the 220 vac mains, to then compare it with the actual heat produced via the Aq2 demo. I doubt any human can do that comparison without actually doing the real comparison and not by sensing only the Aq2 heater. They should have used two identical heaters, one on the demo unit and one on the mains each with a thermometer placed 1 foot away. This would have given you the real data. But even then, had you demanded in advance that a second heater be used as comparison, knowing TK, he would have placed a type of resistance inside the second heater that when plugged into the wall socket would match the heat of the Aq2. So you would need to take apart both heaters to make sure they are identical and even open up the wall socket. These guys have no limits.

Also, the white wire is not an illusion, it is there and it is going under the cement block and they probably used some heat shrink on it. Also, why would the guy take the trouble of covering the cement block with a wooden plank and a brick if there was only a ground wire there. Did they cover up the water pipe in the Green Box with all those countless people moving around?

I don't know why you guys are here. Are you here to discover the reality because I didn't invent it, I only observed it and only after 1020 pages or so. Better late then never I guess. TK is the one who made those devices not me. I understand you want to believe they are real but what is the difference between real and not real when all you seek is the truth of the matter based on what they did.

The main point here is flagrant. Anyone that is content on doing videos and demos for hire that purport OU are just simple fakes. There is no other answer that could fall into any realm of logic. You can rationalize that there are valid excuses, investment, time, caused family troubles, MIB, etc., is just kidding you with stories man.

Anyone thinking they can invent OU and make a business of it while holding it a secret or giving it to one company is just fooling themselves. This is not your regular new product launch that you can decide which distribution channels you will use. It does not work that way man. OU is only possible if it is given to the world for free. FREE. Free does not mean the world will not recognize your gift, but once given free, there is no stopping it to grow and the inventor will grow with it more then if he was stuck in an office trying to make sales calls. Keep it a secret and there is only one guy to stop and game over.

The reason is simple. If you invent OU, for some, you will be the greatest hero, but for others, you will be the greatest foe. That is the normal and natural truth. Give the device to the USA and Russia will get mad, give it to Japan and China will stomp, give it to Christians and Muslims will go mad with rage. Give it to General Electric and Westinghouse will get mad, do anything you want besides giving it simultaneously to the world and there will be some powerful guy somewhere that will get really pissed off that you did not give it to them as well. Try and patent it and you will thereafter be stuck in commercial limbo.

There are surely many ways to achieve OU, but there is only one way to let is flourish and that is to give it to the world with no strings attached. Try and put a string on it to hold and it will burn your hands. It's about time guys got that through their heads.

So any bimbo saying they have OU and will keep it a secret can only be one thing, liar and cheat, as well as being a major waste of time, money and orientation.

@a.king21, the only real good thing your guy took on the video is the cement block. Besides that, all his video is totally useless. We had more information from the pictures that were posted. So the guy that went to see TK was not up to par for the task. That happens but you always know after the fact.

Before you sent your guy to see TK, if you would have come here and indicated your intentions and methodology, we could have helped you fine tune it as fail safe, and because of that, if you then gave that criteria to TK, I am sure he would have refused to do the demo. That would have saved you some bucks and clarified the matter right there.

TK greatest phrase "No I will not do that because it will give out my secret", is exactly how he locks you into his game and pulls you out of your game. And should you then still accept, well you lose, he wins.

Also, I am even sure you must have had more criteria but you are not telling us what they were and if TK refused them. That would clarify matters even more because if you then accepted to go ahead and pay him anyways, then you must accept full responsibility for your loses. Just answer this one question that I will read but no longer post here. Why did you send someone to see TK or what were your interests in such a deal? Reality has a way of coming back to bite you. That's what I get from all of this drama.

Anyways, forget it.

wattsup

PS: Time to open a new category for real OU research.

Farmhand

Wattsup has invested much time, effort and resources his studies on this device, if he has come to the conclusion it is faked he has every right to
explain why he came to that conclusion and present evidence to support his view.

To me what seems more suspicious is when people say if a person does not "believe" the claim "which is only supported by video evidence"
they should not examine the video for "tells" and evidence of fakery. And should quietly leave the thread.

To me that reeks of don't reveal the magicians tricks at a science demonstration, if you don't like the show don't heckle and take the exit.

If TK or others want this to be believed I wonder why ? Why not just build it and prove it. Why must anyone just believe what can be easily faked ?

How could another's disbelief and evidence of fakery possibly make it fake if it isn't already.

If it is real then nothing anyone can say can make it become "Not real".

There is ample reason to suspect that these high level fakes do much to hold back and distract the search for new free energy sources.

As well as distract the masses they also discredit the whole movement for free energy when they turn out to be definite fakes as some eventually do.

Ie, if you and millions of others continue to pursue the TK device for another 10 years with no success, will you then just walk away quietly and go to
another dubious device with no actual proof of it's performance and no clear construction information ? 

How long have people been trying to get a working SM device or TK device for now.

Whats the next dubious device the Oil companies will release to distract everybody ?  Maybe Don Smith, Steve Marks, Tariel Kapanadze ect. are doing just that.
Maybe when the effect of one wears off they employ another one.

Because little info is given, people study the video's to try to find clues. When the clues say "fake" the people searching should say so because it is the right thing to do,
regardless of if it upsets the believers or not.

So to turn the tables, maybe the paid ones are the one's who will not accept another persons right to express their opinion based on their investigations.

As for me unless I'm banned I will question what doesn't make sense to me, I can be ignored or my questions answered it's up to the individuals free will.

Cheers