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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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verpies

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on December 25, 2012, 04:05:07 PM
Except that a hidden high voltage wire needs to be thick because of the thick insulation
Wrong. Even a regular copper enameled wire with thin film insulation can withstand many kilo Volts before breaking down.
See here.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on December 25, 2012, 04:05:07 PM
what else could be the reason for one to over and over repeat that something is a proven fake without any real evidence but assumptions based on blurry images and in doing so risking his reputation? If one thinks TK is completely fake then why not just leaving this forum silently?
Maybe because Wattsup is really pissed off at TK for wasting his precious time and resources.  He's not a spring chicken AFAIK.

verpies

Quote from: wattsup on December 25, 2012, 02:17:08 PM
the heating element provides TK the leeway required to obtain his visual effect.
Yes, without calibration or comparison the heat output is hard to judge. Human skin is not capable of sensing the heat output accurately.  One of those non-contact electronic heat sensors would've been much better at it.

But, you don't really need to get into the details of power transfer via a hidden wire.  Once the presence of concealed wire is proven, there are many many different ways it can be used to transfer power. (the easiest being step-up to HV and then step down in the device IMHO).
It is enough that you show that there is a hidden wire, e.g. by the behavior of the springy empty braid or photo analysis of wire branching.  No need to get bogged down in further details.

You might as well stop there because the rest is elementary my dear Wattsup, elementary...

Quote from: wattsup on December 25, 2012, 02:17:08 PM
What are your thoughts about the Mustafa circuit
I did not analyze it.
Is the performance of this circuit  extraordinary?
Is anything else known about transformers in this circuit besides their turn ratio?

yfree

Quote from: wattsup on December 25, 2012, 02:17:08 PM
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What are your thoughts about the Mustafa circuit. I tried it but not even a nudge on the secondary. Must be because of they way the C1 capacitor is placed.

Yes, Mustafa circuit has a working potential.
At least, it should be possible to efficiently transfer power from P1 to P2 (see below).
It does not mean though that any two transformers connected through a 60 uF capacitor will transfer power efficiently from P1 to P2.
To accomplish this, the circuit (L2+L3)C1 has to resonate at 50 or 60 Hz (depending on the grid frequency). This means that C1 has to be adjusted (tuned). Induced  resonant oscillations in this circuit are biasing the core of the transformer T2.
However, there is more to this schematic than initially meets the eye.
Transformer T2, depending on it's shape and core cross-section, is just another possible implementation of the arrangement from Michel Meyer patent CZ 284,333. In here,  L3 provides magnetic biasing and magnetic modulation and L4 serves as a pick-up coil and supplies RF excitation, when pulsed either by a spark-gap or a thyristor. The detailed working principle of this kind of an arrangement has already been described by McFreey.
Induced transmutation of the core material in transformer T2 may provide additional energy. It does not mean though that any two transformers will do the trick.
The circuit, depending on implementation, has a working potential.

a.king21

There was no concealed wire. I asked those present. The earth wire was disconnected for a short while.
Stop making up stories and stick to his patent. Verpies: you didn't even know what radiant energy was till I told you.
100 years later and some people still do not understand or want to understand Tesla.
Wattsup's analysis was useful in parts because he verified TK's device (AQUA 2)  kept to one of his patents.
Zeitmaschine is on the right track in my opinion.
My motives for attempting to bring TK's technology to the West have never been hidden. I have a financial interest.
Simple.
However, the benefit would be to all humankind.
Also simple.
Anyway, it appears that Magnacoaster is shipping, so we'll soon get replications.
Magnacoaster also uses radiant energy.
Simple.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: wattsup on December 25, 2012, 05:22:42 PM
Did I say OU is impossible? No I did not. I know deep down to my bones that OU is possible and have always believed and worked towards that. Just because I don't have OU yet, it does not mean it does not exist. It also does not mean guys like SM or TK have to be real for me to discover it for myself. They can be fakes while we are the real guys doing the real works to discover it. That's what doing better means.
And if we discover OU then why should this OU device by chance not look like that of TK or SM? As far as I can imagine electric OU can only be achieved by connecting some electric components together like coils, capacitors, semiconductors, but not by using a brick or piece of wood or a candle etc. If OU is possible then I can see no physical evidence so far why the TK or SM devices are not real. Just because they keeping their secrets? If I discover OU maybe I will keep my secret as well. In this point I do not even trust myself. If people are willing to pay me 1000$ half a day for demonstrating the device to them, then how do I know for sure whether or not I could resist that offer (instead of giving it away freely)?

Quote from: verpies on December 25, 2012, 06:19:46 PM
Wrong. Even a regular copper enameled wire with thin film insulation can withstand many kilo Volts before breaking down.
See here.
But only if the enameled wire is not mechanically damaged. Means it would be a bad choice to put an enameled wire on the floor and use it like an extension cord, even with surrounding braid.

Quote from: verpies on December 25, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
But, you don't really need to get into the details of power transfer via a hidden wire.  Once the presence of concealed wire is proven, there are many many different ways it can be used to transfer power.
And maybe that's the reason why this thread is going on and on without result. Because instead of figuring out the principle of work of the device if it is real, half of the effort goes in figuring out the principle of work of an unproven fake.

BTW: I have found wattsup's missing  5th wire. It shows up right in the other wattsup image. Five wires in, five wires out, no fake visible. Isn't that good news? :D

Hence if there is something wrong here, then it is surely not the connection of the Kapanadze device.

That's just my two cents for the next day.