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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Zeitmaschine

Quote from: SchubertReijiMaigo on February 20, 2013, 11:04:10 AM
When you push plates apart you invest energy in that cap, you convert Force*Distance to electrical energy !

That's very strange stuff. Because it means that the plates of a capacitor act like a tension spring. The more I pull on a tension spring the more energy is stored in that spring (till I release it). The more I push the plates of a capacitor apart the more energy is stored in that capacitor. But what if I push the plates a few miles apart? Could this increase the energy in the capacitor to infinity (if I push one plate to the other end of the universe)? And what will happen if I release the plates? ???

d3x0r

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 20, 2013, 11:40:36 AM
That's very strange stuff. Because it means that the plates of a capacitor act like a tension spring. The more I pull on a tension spring the more energy is stored in that spring (till I release it). The more I push the plates of a capacitor apart the more energy is stored in that capacitor. But what if I push the plates a few miles apart? Could this increase the energy in the capacitor to infinity (if I push one plate to the other end of the universe)? And what will happen if I release the plates? ???
well a little thought, once you reach a certain voltage, which happens at a distance squared, it would jump the gap anyway

verpies

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 19, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
This sounds quite not complicated enough. Therefore I'm daring to ask what could happen (in terms of differential equations) if both coils would share the same core? What could happen if the coils are bifilar wound? What could happen if the core goes into saturation? What could happen if these are air coils without a ferromagnetic core?
I need more info to answer that, e.g.:
Are the two mutually-coupled coils "charged" sequentially or simultaneously? 
Is the bifilar winding wound in bucking mode or aiding mode (BTW: this detail should always be specified when using the phrase "bifilar winding") ? 
Does the saturation refer to a soft ferromagnetic core or a hard ferromagnetic core (hard ones exhibit high magnetic remanance after the magnetizing H field is removed) ?

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 19, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
But anyway I would not rely too much on differential equations because something must be wrong with these equations, otherwise there would be neither the presentation of the Kapanadze device nor of the Stepanov transformer nor of the Steven Marks TPU (not mentioned the story of Tesla's electric car). So we should keep looking for the one differential equation that is wrong or missing.
These equations are based on centuries of empirical observations, such as voltage measured across inductors when the magnetic field inside them changes or the current that flows in a capacitance/resistance in response to voltage.
To invalidate those equations one of the effects observed by Ampere, Faraday, Lenz, Lorentz, Biot-Savart, Maxwell, Ohm would have to be proved to be wrong or incomplete or nonexistent.  The former two are still possible but require extraordinary experimental proof.

The second argument that Kapanadze's or Stepanov devices work contrary to these equations is a weak one.  First of all we cannot be sure that they work at all.  Secondly we do not know their operating principle - for example Ampere, Faraday, Lenz, Lorentz, Biot-Savart, Maxwell, Ohm laws might be simply not applicable to their operational principle and the equations, that embody those effects, likewise might not be applicable.  For instance: McFreey's analysis does not violate any of the aforementioned effects and equations that stem from them, the electronic schematic of his system looks like an ordinary transformer yet it allegedly generates copious amounts of energy through a completely different effect - different from the operation of a conventional transformer.

By the same token, it is entirely possible that entirely different types of electricity exist (e.g. uncharged electrons, cold electricity,  birotating electrons - Cooper pairs, electron triplets in counterspace) and that these different types do not obey the laws of conventional electricity.
However, merely stating the possibility does not make it so.  It should be possible to discriminate between the conventional electricity and the new types of electricity, somehow.  This difference should be demonstrable, even if it is one measly effect that the conventional electricity is not capable of exhibiting (e.g. cooling resistors, etc...). 
This should be a simple effect, that everyone can replicate, not high-speed data transmission from Miami to Havana without an antenna. 
Anyway, as usual, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.




jbignes5

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 20, 2013, 11:40:36 AM
That's very strange stuff. Because it means that the plates of a capacitor act like a tension spring. The more I pull on a tension spring the more energy is stored in that spring (till I release it). The more I push the plates of a capacitor apart the more energy is stored in that capacitor. But what if I push the plates a few miles apart? Could this increase the energy in the capacitor to infinity (if I push one plate to the other end of the universe)? And what will happen if I release the plates? ???


The resistance of that wire you use to collect the energy difference would eat up your gains.


Lets think about this in a different way. What do you think a body in space is? A capacitance? Each planet in a solar system is one terminal of a capacitor. The main capacitance is the central point like our sun. Now measure the differences between each planet and the sun. The sun us the positive plate with each plate becoming a portion of the negative plate. Can you say gravity.... Gravity is a misnomer in space and reaches out for light years. Each capacitance set, sun and planet set, interacts with each other but are always in balance. This is the effect we call gravity.


like I have stated earlier in my crystal battery experiments we found out that when you have an object like metal it has a standing voltage value. This value can be drawn from but it creates a vacuum like effect that takes time to rebalance.  The crystal batteries if made properly can power very light voltage loads like LEDs  very easily and for extended times if drawn from in a pulsing method. The crystal batteries also have a capacitance like effect in this respect as well. The one problem is finding a way to protect the metals involved since using different metals in the batteries almost always produce a galvanic response. I say almost because the metal can be protected via an oxidation layer that still conducts but keeps a layer of oxygen and  inert water locked into the crystalline Material coating the metals. But I digress from the topic of this thread.

d3x0r

Quote from: jbignes5 on February 20, 2013, 12:11:16 PM

The resistance of that wire you use to collect the energy difference would eat up your gains.


Lets think about this in a different way. What do you think a body in space is? A capacitance? Each planet in a solar system is one terminal of a capacitor. The main capacitance is the central point like our sun. Now measure the differences between each planet and the sun. The sun us the positive plate with each plate becoming a portion of the negative plate. Can you say gravity.... Gravity is a misnomer in space and reaches out for light years. Each capacitance set, sun and planet set, interacts with each other but are always in balance. This is the effect we call gravity.


so I'm what a postivily charged particle that sticks to the earth?  electrostatic attractive force != gravity.