Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[Farmhand]

Free energy- yes but overunity- no. The term 'free energy' can reasonably be applied to any energy that can be collected by a system without the user having to pay for it directly. However, the energy collected by solar and wind devices is not strictly free as leo48 points out because of purchase and maintenance costs. As I see it, the main problem here is with definitions in that that some people incorrectly argue that a system running on free energy = overunity, simply because it is doing work that requires no input of conventional grid derived energy by the user.

The energy is free, it's the device to utilize it that costs money, just like a device to use paid for energy cost's money, and a device to produce so called over unity
would not be free either and would also require maintenance.

If over unity simply means more out than we put in, then a solar panel is Over Unity.  Over unity devices don't create their extra energy, they harness it from somewhere
just like a solar panel, just because it is not clear or known where the energy is harnessed from means very little except more research is needed.

See, I'm objective I don't take side's. I see things my own way.

I think it is very important that there is some consensus on what over unity means. The only valid meaning I can give it is over 100 % efficient in relation to energy we put in to what we get out. In other words my solar panels are Over unity devices. Over unity device need not even utilize free energy, eg. A Crystal radio, I get more out than I put in.

Without the meaning above, to me the only other meanings would be 1. If a device output more energy in total to the energy it received from all sources, which is impossible unless something is created from nothing. Or 2. A number greater than one.

So the only real useful meanings it can have is a number greater than one, or over C.O.P 1.

Seems like good logic to me.

The Atmospheric energy collection patent

Is no one interested in the Atmospheric energy collection patent posted ? Because if not I'll keep my work to myself, I don't think it belongs in this thread and
I'm not making a thread to be the only one posting in it. Either way suit's me fine, with no thread my work is less because I don't need to post.
And the source of energy is identified so .......... According to most it cannot be OU and so should not warrant a thread anyway.

Cheers

[Grumage]

Hello to all.

As we are suffering some really bad weather here at the moment, I decided to look at Zeitmaschine's Russian patent. 
http://bd.patent.su/2386000-2386999/pat/servl/servlet92b8.html
I have a problem that one of our electronics specialists may be able to help me? I am using SCR C106 DG. I am set up on a small bread board and have found that even a small touch with an isolated wire on the gate will trigger a latch. So I have wound some small Ferrite rings and grounded one leg, the other is on the gate. Now a small curent applied through a couple of turns will latch the pair of SCR's. But they do not respond to the polarity of the DC input pulse that is applied. This is unfortunate as the whole point of the exercise is to have alternate pair switching!!
I have tried steering Diodes to no avail. Has anyone any ideas?

Cheers Grum.

WOW I have lost my Newbie status 

[Hoppy]

No doubt opinions will continue to differ about the meaning of overunity and free energy and we will remain fixed in our own opinions. In the interests of getting back on course on this thread, perhaps we should drop the use of the terms overunity and free energy from our conversations and just concentrate on how we can extract copious levels of energy from the environment without any user supplied input energy as apparently demonstrated by the TK devices.

[Zeitmaschine]

As we are suffering some really bad weather here at the moment

If bad weather leads to free energy then it is worth the suffering.

I have tried steering Diodes to no avail. Has anyone any ideas?

Don't connect the gates of one SCR pair directly to each other. Use for each gate a separate Ferrite ring (or SCR Trigger Transformer). Or try it with two triacs instead of two SCR pairs.

[Grumage]

If bad weather leads to free energy then it is worth the suffering.
Don't connect the gates of one SCR pair directly to each other. Use for each gate a separate Ferrite ring (or SCR Trigger Transformer). Or try it with two triacs instead of two SCR pairs.

Hello Zeitmaschine and all.

Thanks for the quick responce and it is good to see the amended schematic. However my main problem is that the SCR's do NOT see the reverse polarity on the gate. At present I am testing the circuit with DC and using a single AA battery to pulse the drive coil. No matter which polarity is applied the Thyristor latches.

Yes I could use Triac's but I wonder whether there is something in the nature of each Thyristor being switched at a different point in the cycle?

Please have a study all. Cheers Grum.

No, I have re read. It catergorically states "pair"of thyristors. So Triac's may be better?