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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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sparks

    I would think the saw noise was being generated by the two large spinning discs.  If there is some sort of shock being applied to the motor shaft then the disks act as cymbals as well as providing large amounts of inertia to the system.
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Quote from: verpies on April 20, 2013, 08:39:17 AM
Do you mean a monopole motor like the one invented by Michael Faraday ?
Doesn't this type of motor require a brush at the rim ?

No, I'm referring to the Bedini type monopole motor / energiser: http://energyroom.weebly.com/uploads/8/9/8/2/8982980/bedini_plans.pdf

With this basic design using strong neo magnets in the rotor, the performance we see in TK's video would be fairly easy to achieve. There is a fair bit of torque when timing is adjusted to enhance motor action rather than generation. The classic Bedini monopole is built around a bicycle wheel as a rotor and uses ceramic magnets but the powerful versions use an ali rotor and neo magnets. The discharge from the power coil can be taken-off to charge caps or batteries. There is a plethora of information, building plans and videos on the web covering the monopole motor / energiser.

verpies

Quote from: sparks on April 20, 2013, 09:50:52 AM
I would think the saw noise was being generated by the two large spinning discs.  If there is some sort of shock being applied to the motor shaft then the disks act as cymbals as well as providing large amounts of inertia to the system.
That is a very sensible deduction. 
You can see the spectrogram of this sound below.  The strongest frequency component is at 1020Hz.  It does not show the PRF as that would require multifrequency autocorrelation analysis.

You can also see the increasing frequency of the bearing noise as the shaft is accelerating (diagonal lines or ramps at the bottom of the screen while the frequency of the saw-noise is constant (horizontal lines).

What do you think is applying these sharp shocks to the disks/shaft?

verpies

Quote from: Hoppy on April 20, 2013, 03:49:43 AM
Its possible that both discs were being driven in a monopole configuration. Its also feasible that the generator was doctored such that it ran reasonably free and played no part in generating power.
Yes, the generator and the alternator could have been doctored.  I need to watch these videos again to see if I can notice any evidence of such doctoring.

Quote from: Hoppy on April 20, 2013, 03:49:43 AM
Also note that that the toroid coil was being measured whilst TK was having a problem in getting the motor to accelerate, which strongly suggests to me that the toroid plays a part in starting the motor.
...or that the measurement process has interfered with the function of the toroidal coil.

Quote from: Hoppy on April 20, 2013, 10:07:53 AM
No, I'm referring to the Bedini type monopole motor / energiser: http://energyroom.weebly.com/uploads/8/9/8/2/8982980/bedini_plans.pdf
With this basic design using strong neo magnets in the rotor, the performance we see in TK's video would be fairly easy to achieve.  Also there would be no problem with hiding the bearing heat and smell.
Yes, the performance we see on those videos would be achievable by the Bedini style motor if the magnets in the disks were radially far away from the axle/shaft. 

That leaves us with the following to figure out:
1) Where are the coils hidden (to the side of the disks in the bearing pedestals [far] or under the disks [closer] ) ?
2) What about the strong shielding effect of aluminum/brass to the changing magnetic field (dB/dt), if the coils are hidden behind aluminum and magnets are inside brass?
3) How are the magnets concealed inside the brass disks ?
4) Why is the frequency of the saw-noise independent of the speed of the disks/shaft ?

Hoppy

Quote from: verpies on April 20, 2013, 12:01:41 PM
Yes, the generator and the alternator could have been doctored.  I need to watch these videos again to see if I can notice any evidence of such doctoring.
...or that the measurement process has interfered with the function of the toroidal coil.
Yes, the performance we see on those videos would be achievable by the Bedini style motor if the magnets in the disks were radially far away from the axle/shaft. 

That leaves us with the following to figure out:
1) Where are the coils hidden (to the side of the disks in the bearing pedestals [far] or under the disks [closer] ) ?
2) What about the strong shielding effect of aluminum/brass to the changing magnetic field (dB/dt), if the coils are hidden behind aluminum and magnets inside brass?
3) How are the magnets concealed inside the brass disks ?
4) Why is the frequency of the saw-noise independent of the speed of the disks/shaft ?

1) More likely in the bearing housings as the neo magnets would more than likely be disc shaped and polarised N/S back to front / through thickness.
2) This should not adversely affect performance. I've tried various non-ferrous metal shielding with this type of motor / generator.
3) The magnets would need to be placed at even intervals around the outer circumference of the disc so as to align with the pole face of the coil core. This would also enhance the flywheel effect
4) More thought needed.

Edit: Expanding on point 2) - Depending on the thickness of the brass and ali plate, there will be an effect on the rotor acceleration rate but this will not stop the rotor from reaching a high speed as the plate is probably quite thin in section in TK's machine.