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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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NickZ

  All:
  Verpies knows, that he and I have discussed this Aether theme to exhaustion, some time ago. Therefore I will not pursue this further at this time, and will allow him to have the last and final word, as that is his intention.
   However I will be the first to remind him, when free energy from the Aether is proven.
As well,  he can also prove the point of energy from matter, (in our particular experiments with ferrite), or any other metals, or substances. But, not by linking to other tests done by others using different materials and experiments, as proof, as he has done previously.


forest

I hope verpies can do much more then discuss when free energy from ether will be proven. I think by "proven" you mean a working self-running device , right ? Because I have no doubt and it is proven for me for years but I still don't have a working model. I have also give very reliable basis for theory how that energy is extracted from ambient background in 2009, I will recall that later if I got to the point of working self-sustainable device.

verpies

Quote from: NickZ on October 15, 2013, 10:03:27 AM
But, not by linking to other tests done by others using different materials and experiments, as proof, as he has done previously.
Why not?
Experimental evidence constitutes proof regardless of its source.

T-1000

Quote from: verpies on October 15, 2013, 12:28:37 PM
Why not?
Experimental evidence constitutes proof regardless of its source.
That's true as real practical effect showcase speaks for itself much better than any crazy scientific theory(fantasy in my words)... :)

verpies

Quote from: forest on October 15, 2013, 09:27:37 AM
HOW do you know what is measurable ?
By definition or if a measuring device can be constructed to measure it, then it is measureable.

Quote from: forest on October 15, 2013, 09:27:37 AM
I mean : how can you be sure that what you measured is a weak force or a small unbalanced part of balanced two opposite huge forces ?
If merely a pair of forces is subtracted then the measurement is binary-relative and it is impossible to distinguish these two cases. 
But practically: a difference that makes no difference, is no difference ;)

However, in most physical cases, the situation is not restricted to binary-relative relations, e.g. forces can be compared with the effects they cause on free particles, matter, radiation, positions, accelerations, speeds, etc ...not only comparisons with another force.
Those multilateral comparisons form the basis of measurements.

BONUS RANT:
This is probably too far out for most folks here, but since this thread is not occupied with anything viable at the moment, I allow myself for this rant.  I will stop immediately as soon as some interesting device or experiment comes along.

There is one important binary-relative relationship that almost everyone is ignoring.  Namely the relationship between space and time.  If you think about it, you will notice that practically it is impossible to measure any distance without involving time in it somehow  (including a ruler).  It turns out that  it is impossible theoretically, too.  So how do you know that 1 meter is 1 meter or a foot is a foot?  The logical conclusion is that you don't ...and distance (a 1D measurement of space) is not absolute in its essence.  It can be shown that the 2D measurement of space (area) and 3D measurement of space (volume) are also relative to time. Hence the fixed 3D spatial container, that almost everyone is imaging as floating in, does not really exist, it is an illusion that can be infinitely distorted according to rules of projective geometry.  All a result of few wrong ad-hoc assumptions.