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Overunity Machines Forum



An easy Bessler...

Started by iacob alex, July 01, 2009, 12:20:00 AM

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iacob alex


  ...style design,can be effortless tested ,if we shorten(reduce,simplify...) the drawing MT13 from   www.orffyre.com/mt1-20.html    into something
similar, at    www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text009.jpg

     As you can easy notice,a wheel with 12 spokes becomes a wheel with 2 spokes ,only (one constant,one variable).

    The constant spoke has a middle length.

    The variable spoke commutes(due to a "bump" effect of a small follower wheel) as a longer or a shorter length.

    The two masses are equal.

    The hub plays as a rotational charge-discharge inertia.

         All the Best! / Alex   

Cloxxki

Nice one!

My concern is the blue weight at <12:00 hitting the pulley under its axle. My logic tells me the wheel will stop there, bounce back, before the blue weight has climded over the plley.
What feature in this design would be giving "something for nothing"?

thanks,

J

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exnihiloest

Quote from: iacob alex on July 01, 2009, 12:20:00 AM
  ...style design,can be effortless tested ,if we shorten(reduce,simplify...) the drawing MT13 from   www.orffyre.com/mt1-20.html    into something
similar, at    www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text009.jpg
...

Maybe they were interesting ideas 300 years ago but we know at least for 200 years that these stupidities do not work and why they do not work.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm#wheels
it is not an obligation to redo the mistakes of the past again and again!
:-)






Cloxxki

Quote from: exnihiloest on July 01, 2009, 08:57:43 AM
Maybe they were interesting ideas 300 years ago but we know at least for 200 years that these stupidities do not work and why they do not work.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm#wheels
it is not an obligation to redo the mistakes of the past again and again!
:-)
How strange then, that with all those different ideas, in 300 years we still don't know what the lunatic Bessler figured out. We don't even have a less efficient OU wheel. His was doing serious useful work, dropping from the idle 26rpm to 20rpm. Wood and metal. With today's precision engineering, 40 years of men on the moon, we don't even get a wheel to complete its first real rotation when only held up by full ceramic or even magnetic bearings.
Even magnet assisted, not a single turn where the next gets easier.
Maybe Abeling has something, but this forum can't find out what it is that makes his wheel "work".