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Effects of Recirculating BEMF to Coil

Started by gotoluc, July 02, 2009, 06:24:29 PM

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gotoluc

Hi everyone,

I just uploaded a new video as a re-test of the previous test 12 to re-confirm the results that we can create a magnetic field while creating heat at next to no cost. The difference in this video is I'm using the capacitor resistor circuit that .99 suggested to be able to easily measure current draw.

The results are not quite as good as it was in test 12, however we need to keep in mind that if some of the energy is going back to the batteries I would believe this circuit would not work with that effect. You be the judge!... take note that the voltage drop on the batteries stays in the exact same range from test to test as this was the calibration reference I used in test 12 to re-adjust duty cycle between tests.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VHL2lMkepI

Luc

 

gotoluc

Here is another video that continues the test of video 13 and is also testing an effect that user: Michael John Nunnerley of the Energetic Forum believes to occur.

Here is Michael's topic: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4604-two-element-bemf.html

Link To video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqoXEqZ7t_0

Luc

poynt99

Hi Luc.

Was wondering, are you measuring battery voltage across the batteries or across C2?

Any inductive kickback occurring will go back into C2 just as well as it would go back into the batteries, but any recharging effect that may add to the battery charge due to ion flow would be lost, if in fact this OU effect did occur.

Thanks,
.99
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gotoluc

Quote from: poynt99 on August 19, 2009, 08:01:45 PM
Hi Luc.

Was wondering, are you measuring battery voltage across the batteries or across C2?

Any inductive kickback occurring will go back into C2 just as well as it would go back into the batteries, but any recharging effect that may add to the battery charge due to ion flow would be lost, if in fact this OU effect did occur.

Thanks,
.99

Hi .99,

battery voltage is measured across C2.

I agree that the switch flyback would go back to C2 but like you say, it would have no ability to recharge the capacitors chemistry ;D

So, is the test doing what you thought it would do! or are you surprised it's doing what it is.

I think the way I was calibrating the duty cycle in test 12 using the battery bank voltage drop between each circuit was accurate enough and a fair comparative since we can clearly see that the voltage drop is exactly the same between each test using the cap resistor method. Would you not agree?... and if we can get the resistor to heat to a higher temperature with the identical voltage drop as with the cap resistor circuit that can only support that some of the energy is making it way back to the batteries and giving them a recharge.

Hey, here's a new test. I start the inductor resitor circuit with the cap resistor circuit adjusted to draw the same 25ma till the voltage drop is very stable and pull the feed connections from the caps and connect them directly to the batteries. If the battery voltage starts to rise then the recharge effect is real and valid. Agree

Luc

wattsup

Quote from: poynt99 on August 19, 2009, 08:01:45 PM
Hi Luc.

Was wondering, are you measuring battery voltage across the batteries or across C2?

Any inductive kickback occurring will go back into C2 just as well as it would go back into the batteries, but any recharging effect that may add to the battery charge due to ion flow would be lost, if in fact this OU effect did occur.

Thanks,
.99

@99

I am glad to see this comment coming from you as this shows you are really checking @gotolucs back during these trials. This then adds to the complexity of trying to measure things in a system that relies on clear passage for flyback return. I imagine that the undoubtable end will be as we do  now, to try and run a load and notice little or no battery discharge.

Or is there a more non-intrusive way of checking this like passing the wire through a small ferrite coil and taking measurements off the coil? A clamp on DC ammeter would also be good.