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How Gravity Works

Started by Dave45, July 08, 2009, 09:11:16 PM

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newbie123

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 10, 2009, 10:43:26 PM
newbie,  you are right - neither are "incorrect".  BOTH are "incomplete"......

Right, I'll agree with this statement..   But I have problems with lots of things you said in your previous posts...  (the first one, I think was more of a typo)

And this too...  You're trying  to show how the electromagnetic of an entity is proportional to it's "gravity", right?

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Lets start with Hydrogen, it has an atomic mass of ~1
and a charge density of ~ (1) ^2.

Helium has an atomic mass of ~4, and a charge density of (2)^2

Lithium gets a bit more complicated.
this element has an atomic mass of ~7, and its charge density is represented by:  ~[(2)^2]*[(2)^(2/3)]
an atom with 3 shells is something like
(x^3)*((y+1)^3/4)*((z+2)^1/2)
and it can get a lot worse with ions and isotopes

these are estimated numbers, you would want to carry it out to at least 4 decimals if you are seriously going to do the math on this.
But you will see the charge density (magnitude of the EM field) of the nucleus is directly proportional to the square root of the atomic mass.

and as such, represents its gravitational magnitude.

and along these lines you can calculate the exact gravational force presented by a known mass of a certain element.


How would this  explain a neutron's gravity (i.e. neutron stars)?   Neutrons have 0 charge, yet they still have gravity...  which really is irrelevant to the EM force...     






Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

sm0ky2

looking at a compound aotm like deuturium

this element has an atomic mass of ~2
and a charge density of (1)^2 + (-1)^2
this is caused by the inductance of the neutron, and creates a charge of -(1) (yes antigravity) in a 180-degree vector to the positive gravitational force, thus doubling the gravity created by the nucleus.  It is important to note here that the electron and the proton balance each others charge out (mostly) and the induced charge in the neutron remains prominent in the element.
Giving it a naturally negative charge.

also, the inductance of the neutron gives this atom an assymetric gravitational field.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

sm0ky2

Quote from: newbie123 on July 10, 2009, 10:59:46 PM

How would this  explain a neutron's gravity (i.e. neutron starts)?   Neutrons have 0 charge, yet they still have gravity...  which really is irrelevant to the EM force...     

a neutron by itself is comprised of ~136 "charges", very similar in arrangement of the protons 148

the difference being the charges are opposite one another, and thus exert no "net charge".

but the charge is there, it is slightly less than that of a proton.

i'll use an analogy: charge up 2 leyden jars +/-
individually they each have LOTS of charge,
together they have "no net charge".
dont let the terminology confuse you.

the EM field creating gravity is interfering with the other neutrons, not neccessarily in the same way your equipment detects a charge.

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

newbie123

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 10, 2009, 11:11:10 PM
looking at a compound aotm like deuturium

this element has an atomic mass of ~2
and a charge density of (1)^2 + (-1)^2
this is caused by the inductance of the neutron, and creates a charge of -(1) (yes antigravity) in a 180-degree vector to the positive gravitational force, thus doubling the gravity created by the nucleus.  It is important to note here that the electron and the proton balance each others charge out (mostly) and the induced charge in the neutron remains prominent in the element.
Giving it a naturally negative charge.

also, the inductance of the neutron gives this atom an assymetric gravitational field.
Lol...  Whatever man.. You're just pushing your home brewed physics here (again)

Neutrons don't have anti-gravity or "-1" Charge or inductance (afaik)



Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

newbie123

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 10, 2009, 11:17:23 PM
a neutron by itself is comprised of ~136 "charges", very similar in arrangement of the protons 148

the difference being the charges are opposite one another, and thus exert no "net charge".

but the charge is there, it is slightly less than that of a proton.

i'll use an analogy: charge up 2 leyden jars +/-
individually they each have LOTS of charge,
together they have "no net charge".
dont let the terminology confuse you.

Leyden jars and nuclear physics are so different, you can't even use this analogy... 

Heh..  How do you figure this?
"a neutron by itself is comprised of ~136 "charges", very similar in arrangement of the protons 148"

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.