Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[Pirate88179]

@ Bill and Jeanna

after taking another look at the JT circuits
its not really the construction of the joule-thief that confuses me..

its more the functionality..  what seperates this from any other I/C circuit with a transistor??

i dont understand what exactly it is "supposed to do"?

What i see is a time variance on a DC input, such that its only "on" a % of the time that it would normally be without the JT.  The result is a quick-pulsed DC, which draws less on the battery than a solid input.  what im missing here, is evidence of any "energy gain"... and thus how would such a JT circuit help us in increasing the energy of an earth battery??

Wilby is right but I think there is more there.  Yes, part of it is that the power is pulsed so fast you can't detect it with your eye so you think the light is on 100% of the time when it is not, which adds greatly to the efficiency of the circuit....but...there is a gain and I have experienced it first hand.  Not OU type gain but, when mated to my EB, which can only light an led with nothing else in the circuit, and a supercap, it can light 400 leds or two 48" tubes.  Now, I realized both of those light can light up with mostly volts but, you need some power as well there is some available.

I agree about the 3-phase with 3 different waves in the EB.  Maybe what is happening in my situation is that the JT sets up a series of pulses which may establish some sort of near resonance with one or more of the phases so we can pump more power out of the EB that we otherwise could.  Maybe my set-up is like the poor, ignorant man's version of what Kapandze is doing but I am not tuned to any perfect resonance of any of the 3 phases.

I am just making a theory here, nothing more.  I have been thinking about this ever since I was able to light up some larger stuff using the JT circuits.  And now, having seen Kapandze's work (He is the Russian 5kW guy) and mine and other's waveforms, I think this might be a possible explanation.

Bill

[nueview]

@ pirate

there were several things i noticed on the russian vid that told me this is an mmf function unlike the joule thief which is an emf function tesla statend either effect was usable.

the n machine was a tesla invention originally it produces allot or should i say thousands of amps but only produces minimal voltage the video showed very large cables this is an indication of high current not high voltage both the radiator and water pipe contain high negative charge carriers as these flow they gain more by faradays law of magnetic fields.

in contrast the JT uses very small wire to gain if the cross sectional area is small it limits current it does not flow at 12v a 30 guage wire will pass all the voltage but will not pass much current at 0 guage you can move allot of current to the point where battery voltage will drop to nothing yet hunrdeds of amps are flowing.

this is my two cents for those that get it.
Martin

[jeanna]

I made a leetle .mov
This should open in quicktime.
It is as close to the wave as I can get.
I will post some other jpegs in a minute. I just want to see if this works.
Now, I had 0.98volts show on the dmm.
The wave was very active this afternoon. The blue sky helps the picture. I cannot modify the contrast on this and keep the size small enough.
Between the markers which is sometimes a whole wave, the time is 0.2uS or a frequency of 2.5MHz.
lets see.

jeanna

[jeanna]

Here are a couple more pictures of my EB today... July 19,09.
These are from various distances = resolutions.
Starting with the full wave. This looks like some jim first posted.
Then a little closer then the closest which is 2.5MHz between markers.

EDIT
I am not  exchanging the wholewave pic for one with the markers showing that the large form of the wave is 25KHz. But that is what it is. I just checked and took another pic, but it won't matter.

The name of each pic reflects the amount of time between the markers and the last 2 are correct. The first is too small to get the markers in there, but this larger wave which is not the little ones is 25khz.
I can prove it with a pic, but they would be out of order if I did that.
ok?

jeanna

[jeanna]

...what separates this from any other I/C circuit with a transistor??

i dont understand what exactly it is "supposed to do"?

What i see is a time variance on a DC input, such that its only "on" a % of the time that it would normally be without the JT.  ..

Hi Sm0ky2,
I will add my 2 cents to Bills. We are doing different things with our joule thief circuits, so you can get 2 different views here.

I am never using the joule thief as the patent describes.
I keep forgetting to mention that in my posts, so I apologize for that.

I am only using the secondary to do anything I do.

So, if I am lighting 10 or 18 leds in series or a neon or a fluorescent bulb, it is always and only from the secondary.

I have been trying out different ways to wind both the bifilar primary and the secondary.
I also have been studying using an additional secondary and what that does.
I have been able to turn on leds from 2 different secondaries simultaneously but it took an additional inductor  placed into both secondary circuits to do that.
Now, it is starting to look a lot like some of tesla's circuits.
I am using a transistor instead of a condenser and spark discharge to make the pulses, but the effect is similar.

Got any scope shots for us? 

jeanna