Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[jeanna]

Did I explain this better this time? (I hope I did)  You could try tests with each and see which one gives better results.

I see.
You probably described it fine before. I just heard it not fine. So, thanks for clearing this up.

What I am thinking about doing with this after I get some standard results of my yard etc, is to try the antenna with the raft of coils, and if I can ever figure how to connect the ignition coil I will use that too - or a pair of them.

But first, I want to see what the antenna does with the plain probes.
Then probes with a supercap to ground like that tesla patent where it splits.

ooo it just keeps reminding me of my 2 tier where, most recently I made the split in the secondary.

The similarity is that the 2 threads of the split in the form of a Y have the same pulses as each other. The meter and scope say they have no pulses at all. But that is because they are pulsing together. which is what the earth is doing, and one probe will go up at the same time another one goes up.

It is up or down from no reference, just from earlier in time.

So, time is the tool.

Now, delay one, while the other is undelayed, and there should be more potential. and maybe amps too, if the ions or electrons are going along for the ride.

I guess I better find that patent.
6PM still 90 degrees.

jeanna

[nueview]

@ pirate
if you try the ground to the antenna trick you may want to try this idea out it seemed to work pretty good for me some years ago a wire suspended from some steel wool about 20 foot up and three diodes 1000 volt reverse bias and ns speed one cap and a micro amp meter across the cap the negative of two diodes run from ground to the cap and cap to antenna the other diode runs negative from antenna to ground it charged quite well and seemed to be more DC in nature.

voltage rises fast with altitude so you really don't need more than about twenty foot i used this even with two ground points and it worked as well perhaps the diode from the antenna to ground could be replaced with a jt to add effect.

just a thought
Martin

[sm0ky2]

ok so....

i couldn't help but notice the vast array of different materials everyones using to make their EBs...

so inbetween my 7-ft spacing on my existing EB, i added 3 more terminals of differing materials..

1) just a regular 10-penny nail
2) a 1.5 inch galvanized post
3) an experimental electrode *

the nail and the short galvanized post produced around 0.3v
nothing impressive...

HOWEVER::  my experimental electrode was impressive indeed.

those of you with children, im sure you are familiar with those stupid wire things used to hold TOYS in their packages...

steel wire, insulated with a clear plastic. kind of like a super-twist-tie......

ok well, i stripped 2 inches off one end, and coiled the wire up into an air-core inductor.
and stuck it into the ground.
Whallla -  0.98v between this experimental electrode and my copper plates.

[jeanna]

HOWEVER::  my experimental electrode was impressive indeed.
...steel wire, insulated with a clear plastic. kind of like a super-twist-tie......

ok well, i stripped 2 inches off one end, and coiled the wire up into an air-core inductor.
and stuck it into the ground.
Whallla -  0.98v between this experimental electrode and my copper plates.

Uh oh soon you will put it in a core and add a secondary. You are fast.. 

Ya Know sm0ky2, It really does make the most sense to be looking at this as ac. It is now possible to see it on all the scope shots that it is moving up and down, not so irregularly either.

As you have already described, this kind of wave of pulsed dc or ac does a lousy job turning on a joule thief. I learned that to my dismay when I tried to daisy chain them and ended up with the 2 tier circuit.

This is not even doing a good job once it is rectified. Unless I missed a post where you were able to get the jt light lit.

So, all in all, this inductor idea is terrific. Maybe RLC will be best, because the power in one location seems weak. Once it is going through the inductor, it could swing back with a cap.

hmm.

jeanna

[sm0ky2]

place 2x   2700uF caps in series with each other

and place the pair in parallel with my EB.
connected to the JT
and
my LED is constantly pulsing from the EB at about 2Hz.

i have finally succeeded in drawing 'usable' power from an earth battery !!!!!!!!

also: i added a second "experimental electrode" in parallel and the current increased by a full millaamp