Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[electricme]

@ Altrez

Giday there mate, thanks for all the most kind remarks, they are very welcome.

HOOROOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME WORK
Thank you so much for sharing all of that with us. You ROCK!

Again thank you so much for sharing your Hard work.

-Altrez

Al, you are more than welcome.

jim

[electricme]

@ DreamThinkBuild,

Thank you for your remarks also,

Checked the EB this morning around 8:40, the readings were 799mv 128ua. There is a slight drizzle of rain, I was expecting to see the current drop back to normal levels 40u-60u range but its still high. The voltage has really dropped.

@Jeanna, I see now it's the carrier wave I should be looking at, thanks. Have to take the scope out when it gets drier. I'm not sure where the .983 volts went, it seems to dissipate quickly. I keep thinking of how geothermal heating works where the cold pipes attract the thermal heat from the surrounding warm earth and try to balance. Could be a similar effect going on.

@Nightshade, Neat to see that different setups still seem to produce about the same voltage and readings.

@Electricme, Ok now I have to grab another coffee. Wow! great work. Looks like what I'm missing is getting freaky with the EB and wrapping it in Saran wrap, then adding some water. Thank you for the step by step guide, it is very helpful.

Yes, the easier instructions are to follow makes for better and easier to do replications.
I like your avatar.

jim

[electricme]

@IotaYodi,

Thats right, I had just over 5 volts which is a pritty good effort.

With 7 of them you should have had around 5 volts. You can also use lacquer spray paint instead of tape if wanted. Also liquid tape will work better as its made for underground splicing and doesnt deteroriate as fast as tape. If you wrap a small plastic piece on the bottom of the pipe leaving a gap for the water to run out it will keep it damp as the water stays on top of the plastic. I think when you are using an external cathode the copper pipe has to have the dirt packed down good. From what Im thinking its better to have the cathode in the middle of the pipe with a close tolerance between the two. But maybe not. This would seem to make it act like a one layer capacitor. Earth capacitors have higher ratings. BUT!! I noticed that DreamThinkBuilders cathode was bolted on and insulated. Im curious if he packed dirt in it first before putting it into the ground. If not he had some good voltages if it was a single piece and not part of a series.
I fashioned mine this way. It saved clips plus there is no dissimilar metal problems.  I dont recommend all thread or any blunt metal. Its a pain if you want close tolerances driving it down the center of the copper. You could grind it down to make it easier if you have a grinder.

Im thinking the same thoughts as you are, about types of insulation.

But I havent come across "liquid" tape before, do you have a web addres I could go and take a look at please?

There must be many many types that one could use to make this setup, as well as many different types of metal tubeing, as I have already discovered by my first aluminium tube setup.

jim

[electricme]

@ DreamThinkBuild,

@IotaYodi, The center of the EB is empty, I didn't have any dirt in there. I wrapped the bottom portion of the copper pipe with saran wrap and did a measurement but had no voltage at all, so I'll have to fill it with dirt.

@Bill, That is a great chart I'll add those to my notes.

@Electricme, would it be possible to have a single negative pole and multiple positive poles? Since the copper pipe is isolated from the others by the tape. Place each copper pipe piece in a plastic ice cube tray filled with dirt and have the negative pole external? With all the lightning it hasn't been very good weather here to test the idea.

Hmmmmm probably, it would work, I'm refering my answer to the last question, as there would be more cross sectional area exposed to the negative, but I really don't know, as I havent tried this.

If you make upa egg tray with dirt and try this, the capacity (amps) are limited by its physical size, it is best to do this experiment outside, as that is where the flowing aeather fields are.

For the top questin, you also need another item, an electrode so the energy can be accessed.


jim

[Pirate88179]

@ Jim:

Quote from Jim: "Now I see by Bills post today on his JT site, of a metal table, that Gold has the best recommendation, ha ha, too expensieve for this kid."

Jim:

I posted that chart here today too, one page back.  Gold is not on my list that I posted.  That must have been the chart posted by MK1. The best materials on my list are, you guessed it, carbon and graphite.  I just wanted folks to see that they have the highest potential, and also they can figure out what they should get, give or take, using other materials they may have laying about.

That EB system with the red paint in the post above also turned up in our old EB topic research.  I didn't think too much about it back then as I thought that the materials might degrade due to galvanic reactions.  Maybe they don't.

Also, there is some guy on youtube that made a video about his "earth battery" (His term)  made in an ice tray, sitting inside on his table. (Not outside in the earth)  He reports getting 12 volts from his series hook-up, but no telluric currents in his kitchen and he also reports hardly any power at all from it.  Now that one I am convinced is most, if not all, galvanic. I don't think he lights even 1 led with it.  Now see, your set-up lit that very brightly with no help from a cap or JT circuit so, here is the thing....we know leds will light with high voltage but that is not what you were doing so, this tells me you ALSO must have good mA's to get that to fire up like that.  Now this, I have never seen before from a series set-up like that, not anywhere, not ever.
Until you did it.

I remember you posting about touching your bridge and the led lighting up. (now that you reminded me, ha ha)  Your antenna was longer than mine, and mine was just cobbled together in like 5 minutes.  I need to do a better job of it next time and use a much longer piece of wire, and mount it much higher.

Bill