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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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Pirate88179

JD:

Exactly.  We have found that there is more than galvanic going on here.   One of our early tests was with two copper pipes cut from the same pipe and.....a voltage and mA's were the result.  These were in the ground aligned on the N/s meridian.  This told me right away that galvanic could not be the entire explanation as we were not using dissimilar metals, but the same metals.

I think it plays a part but there is so much more going on that we, or at least I, do not understand.

I still get Youtube comments that this is only galvanic....blah, blah, blah.

I think we are beyond that but, I am still at a loss to explain what is really happening.

More research and more experiments by many are needed and then, maybe we can figure it out.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

IotaYodi

QuoteOne thing that is puzzling me is the fact that the 2 ss/alum in the planters have the same dirt and are done the same way as the 2 ss/alum that are in the ground but have higher readings ...
I think this is mainly water content. The planters I assume have drain holes.
With all the rain we have been getting here my voltage has dropped down to the 60's. When it was dry it was in the 80's and 90's. There is a definite voltage drop when there is a lot of water content which makes sense.
What I know I know!
Its what I don't know that's a problem!

sm0ky2

whatever power i was drawing out of the ground seems to have been "drained" now...

if i disconnect for some time duration i can get a few Ma's back for a short time, but it quickly depletes. and im left with the normal >1v @ microamps that occurs with most EBs....

not enough current to operate my JT circuit anymore.

ran for about 2 weeks, then stopped.

so it would seem the ground around here has a sort of capaticance factor, that charges over time and discharges through the EB circuit.

viewing it on the o-scope this current is identified as the DC carrier signal.
the sine-waves (which encompass a wide bandwidth) dont seem to be depleting at all. turning the timescale as far down as my scope goes, (0.2 microseconds per division) i can separate 30 (+/-) signals of differing frequencies. when combined at larger time intervals they appear identicle to many of the scope-shots posted here.
i havent yet ruled out a man-made source - possibly television/radio?

with less than 1v amplitude, theres not much use for them.
perhaps data could be extracted if the signals were amplified and filtered. this would answer the question of the source.

i'll keep an eye on this thread, in case somethng new arises, but for now my data-analysis of these sine-waves has gone as far as i can take it.  What im seeing is the cummulation of several (weak) signals.
at best, a rectifier with a low-voltage bias could produce a usable current from these (if losses aren't too great), this may prove more advantageous than a simple DC-EB collector. thats about all i have on that issue.

several multiple-probes depletes the ground energy.
i replaced my multi-probe soft-steel connections with several carbon/graphite rods and got the same results. high current, for a duration of time, then it depletes.

galvanized wires corrode,  steel (non-stainless) oxidizes,
carbon and stainless seem to remain intact.
voltage varies slightly 0.6 - 0.9v depending on the combination.
currently im using carbon(+) / stainless (-) and getting 0.9v
current bottoms out at around 800 ua - 1.3ma
and increases over time while the circuit is 'open', up to 11ma.
i cant seem to go any higher than 11ma, no matter how long i wait or how many electrodes i add to the circuit.

electrode distance is approx. 25ft, matched to earth magnetic-allignment, and as close to local inclination as i could manage
                                             (within 10 degrees or so)

not much more i can do here....

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

electricme

@All,

Lots of good work proceeding here I see while I have been away.

Been off air a while, I decided to take off Firefox, then lost the ability to make posts, though I could read them and get PMs, I just couldn't reply.
So this morning I reinstalled Firefox again, and I can post again, but I took the opportunity to have a break away.

Had a bit of a clean up around here, made another work bench, 3 meter steel job, mounted the vice, got to transfer the drill press and grinder next and make a small crane to lift those heavy items, a cut-off-wheel bench is then next.

OK to the matter at hand, I have decided to expand my EB cells in a big way.
Yesterday I got all my scraps of copper pipe and made 63 by 6" length tubes, I have to file off the corrosion to cut and solder 63 lengths of wire to the tubes and the Zinc Nails.
A big undertaking, but I am looking to raise the earth battery voltage from 10 volts to about 50 volts, it may go higher, we shall see.
Hmmm hope I can do this lol.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.