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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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electricme

IotaYodi,

Make and Break,

This is the terminology used to describe how the electrical path is switched on or off.

Imagine a set of 2 contacts, when they are "closed" the term is MAKE.
When they are open, they are "broken" or BREAK    ie Make and Break.

This term is used by all the old electrical inventors, its old language speak.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

@ IotaYodi

Quote from: IotaYodi on November 08, 2009, 10:35:50 PM
I have a question on why the 30 foot spacing with the rods? I also have a question on frequency length.

Frank

Why 30 feet between probes?
I think the distance is the result of finding the best spot which produced the best energy at that time.

But, I think, several sets of waves of energy were passing between the rods in that instance.

Lets take a look at just 1 set of 7 Hz or Cycles, we have 7 waves making a set of waves. (well 7 hz is a known freq that travels through the earth, amongst others several others.

Look at 1722.jpg, The Hz or Cycle in  relation ship to time.
I have drawn 8 waves, but between is 7 complete waves, as the waves pass by the rods in the earth, they see the energy, and we can see itself on our DMMs as DC or AC depending on the nature of the wave at that moment in time, as I believe they alter constantly.
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In image 1725 I think it shows several groups of 7 cycle energy flowing.
In image 1726 I have drawn the 50Hz or 60 Hz, depends on what country uses what power supply system.
In image 1727 I have drawn the 50 Hz or 60Hz over on top of a single cycle of 7 cycle earth energy.

So when we measure the probes, we see Everything as a scrambled signal on the scopes.

We need some way to NUL out the 50Hz and 60Hz signal to get to the "other" signals present.
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Lets go and take a look at 1723.jpg
As the wave passes at its "peak" the points/switch opens, when the wave reaches the low it closes, ready to be "opened" at the next peak.

So I think the Stubblefield cell needs the "secondary coil, to carry out the function of "Making and Breaking", it can do this by switching open one of the wires, perhaps the copper or iron wire at the "peak" of the wave.
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jim


People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

tishatang

link to making a relay into a vibrator (make and break).

http://www.electronixandmore.com/project/1.html

For us, the primary of the example is the secondary of the EB patent.  This will cause induction pulses in the primary (bifilar iron copper).

http://www.electronixandmore.com/project/1.html

jeanna

Nice link. tishatang

I was told waaay back that Stubblefield invented a special kind of magnetic speaker.

If there is any way for this thing to jump up and down and cause a make and break, it is my thought that this is what he used for the make and break.
IF he needed an external make and break, that is.
I have seen as many oscillations coming from the earth as you could ever need, to satisfy the term make and break, and I do not think an external one was needed.
I think it only needs to be tuned right.
I think in a sort of way like what I was/am doing with that circuit with 2 secondaries  that keeps growing.
It is powered by one set of pulses, and produces more and more effect as more inductors are added in series.

I think the best efforts we can make will be to find the right or best tuning for the earth waves that are there.
We should try to add inductors in series.

This approach did work with my 2 stubblefield EB this summer.
I added about 25-40 per cent more volts on any time I used a series inductor.
I think if I had chosen better, I would have had a better result.

(and the cone may give me the multi frequency flexibility ... I am hoping.)

Anyway, thanks for that link. It is a cool website for many reasons.

jeanna

tishatang

Jeanna
I don't recall reading anything about a speaker by NS.  But, it seems logical because of his telephone inventions.

Yes, you are right about getting good pulses out of the earth if you can tune to where they are.  If they are not primary sources, they might be the beat differences between the two freq of the bifilar pair.  My gut feeling is that NS added the make/break after the failure of a demonstration.  The ground had no energy to tap.  By adding a make/break, he could use a small portable battery to charge up the surrounding ground around the EB.  This is like priming the pump.  After which, it works like it should.

Series inductors is exactly what NS did in my opinion.  This did two things:

First, this adds total inductance in the circuit.  This helps you lower the freq of resonance.  There is more energy in the lower freqs. 

And, it lets you fine tune to find the res freq.  Variable caps were not invented until about 1915.  In the 1800's and 90's the only way NS could fine tune, would be to have a series inductor on the surface to peel off extra turns to find the sweet spot.