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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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jeanna

Quote from: IotaYodi on July 28, 2009, 03:06:32 PM
I have three 6 inch 3/4 copper tubing with zinc plated 3/8 all thread down the center of the tubing spaced at about 2 inches apart. They always measure the same. Ive done small plumbing copper and a separate zinc rod spaced about 3 foot apart. Its always the same. 
Hi IotaYodi
I am glad to hear from someone who has made the copper-pipe-with-zinc-rod-inside type of EB.

I am glad to hear you have found the same results we have over the last 2 years.

Thanks for that info.

BTW, I am in WA state near the 48th parallel. As Bill said, we did do this in the winter.
The trouble with winter is the frozen ground.
The voltage was very much down.
Here.

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Here is some more. I am sorry to say this...

Remember how we could not get any series type additional voltage? of course you do,

I made these little cement pots with the idea that an earth like substance = sand and lime - could provide separation enough for more voltage without being in the same pot of soil where it adds up to zero..

But I was only able to get 0.1v addition to the basic 2 probe EB.
I have a metal dome frame and today I connected some leads to that and to the zinc nail nearby in the soil.
The voltage across these leads from dome to nail was 0.385 when tested alone.

The dome only added 0.1 to the voltage across the 30 feet between the carbon welding rods and the zinc nail.

So, this morning the voltage on the 2 probe EB was .75v and with the added .385v from the dome the total only added .1v and now it reads .85v.

Darn! very consistent, though.

And where did the rest of it go?

My next trick will be to make a Y shaped wire from speaker wire.
I will connect the 2 stranded side to the dome and then split it.
One side will go to ground.
The other side will go through a cap to the zinc nail.

Or should I put the one with the cap to the ground?
It is in a tesla patent...

(The test after that will be to go directly to the carbon without stopping at the zinc.)


:D ,
jeanna

Pirate88179

@ Iota:

No real change in the summer except when the ground began to dry out from the spring thaw, the output increased some, not a lot but it was better.

@ Jeanna:

I think I know where your volts went.....ready?  Check for mA's, I would bet you picked up a bunch by connecting that large frame structure into the circuit.  Maybe it is not the same but when I added my second carbon rod to the north, I was disappointed in that it picked up like another .2 volts, but then I realized my mA's had increased from like 5 to 8.5 or so.  (I don't recall the exact numbers from back then.)

Since I never tried the antenna approach it may be totally different, I don't really know.  I have heard you need to use the antenna (your structure) and the electrode on the north side of the EER.  I don't recall which one you said you tested with, maybe you tried both.

Hey, I just heard on the news today that it is very hot out your way. (Duh, you have been saying that for a while now)  Funny thing is, while you are having record high temps for your area, we here in KY are about to set a new, all-time record for the coldest July since they have been recording temps.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

Quote from: Pirate88179 on July 28, 2009, 04:51:42 PM
:

I think I know where your volts went.....ready?  Check for mA's,
OH Yes,
I do remember that. OO that would be great. Combining that with the resistor bracelet, I just might have some light tonight. (actually I need to shade my eyes at night. I have neighbors who are afraid of the dark or something.)

Quote...  I have heard you need to use the antenna (your structure) and the electrode on the north side of the EER....
Well,no.
I am not about to move the dome and the eer is across the back yard from it. The antenna is west of the eer...
Oh darn. I thought that was pretty much a perfect antenna.


QuoteHey, I just heard on the news today that it is very hot out your way. ...
the coldest July since they have been recording temps.
Oh well, would you do me a favor and send it back?  :D
Please?
This is really hot.
I really like the maritime climate. So do my plants. I have been watering 3x a day. The good of this heat is I might get a tomato out of it. We plant tomatoes here just in case we get this kind of weather.

ok out for now,

jeanna

DreamThinkBuild

@IotaYodi,

I can confirm your setup. I've done different configurations(near&far) and still get the same average reading (.600-.900mv & 45ua to 60ua). It all depends on the days wet grounds seem to lower it.

I just dusted this off but here are some shots of my earth battery setup. I had another one which was in the ground since 2007 but after the snowy winter months I forgot about it. Now it's lost to the morass of weeds and prickers that have taken over.

In the first shot it shows the exploded view.
1 Copper Pipe
1 Zinc bolt in the center
2 rubber washers to isolate the copper pipe
2 steel washers and...
1 nut to join them. (oops wrong movie).

Second shot is fully assembled.

Third and Fourth shot show voltage and current I just took the readings at about 5pm, Jul 28,2009, Central CT.

Pirate88179

Jeanna:

No, I didn't say that right.  What I meant was...whatever you are using for your north electrode should be the one connected to the frame, NOT that it had to be aligned in any way.

In other words, If/when I put up an antenna, I will test between my carbon rods and the antenna for juice.  It should not matter (as far as I know) where my antenna is in relation to the electrode but I have read I will get better results with my + electrode over my minus.  Did I explain this better this time? (I hope I did)  You could try tests with each and see which one gives better results.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen